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So this is basically a review of the battery life... The reviewer was basically too busy to charge the device every couple of days and then complains that the d

by sp4rki 16y ago

So this is basically a review of the battery life... The reviewer was basically too busy to charge the device every couple of days and then complains that the device runs out of juice? It's like he wanted the gadget to fail so he could write a review chastising it. Even worse is the fact that the little it did focus on the actual usage, was complaining about how he doesn't know what to do with the analytics' data. Would it have been such a hard thing to do to charge the device once a day (as he probably already does with his phone) and report on the actual point of the device? We want to know if it wakes you up at the right moment, not if the analytics are useless for you and that you forget to charge gadgets.

andrewljohnson 16y ago
The reviewer posted that the device reported 11-12 hours of charge, and then it died. That doesn't sound like user error to me.
- sp4rki 16y ago
  The Wakemate website states that the device's battery lasts 2 to 3 days depending on your sleeping patterns. Battery estimates are bound to usage in every device from the Wakemate to your laptop. The reviewer realized that for him, the device lasts two days before needing a charge, and even then kept using it for the three days. As I already said, if you realize that your smartphone only lasts two days with your usage (even though the manufacturer might say that it can last up to three), it would be stupid to keep trying to use it for three days. It's user error to rely on estimates of 11 or 12 hours when you discover that you drain the battery faster than said estimates.
  - ljf 16y ago
    Yes, as the device kept telling him it could last for longer. If I had a car that I found only really went 100 miles on a full tank, but kept telling me it was half full still, I would be pissed, and I would focus on that. This is a gadget review, not a life review. You dont see their other reviews taking on how items affect your life, just the quality and appropriatness of the product. Why did you think this would be different.
    - sp4rki 16y ago
      Horrible analogy. Once again, battery estimates are just that, ESTIMATES. Two days ago my magic mouse ran out of juice, at one point it said it had 13% charge and two hours later it said it had 2% and then an hour later it died. My laptop is telling me I have 2 hours and 19 minutes of charge. I just opened a youtube video and it changed almost instantly to 1 hour and 55 minutes. If the manufacturer tells you, "Hey your device will last two to three days depending on how much you move" and you realize that it only lasts two for you AND then you don't charge it on second days AND proceed to bash the product because "ohhh it kept running out of battery and what's the point of analytics hurr durr" you're officially a retard. You want to complain in a review that the estimation of the battery life sucked for you, fine go ahead, I have no problem with that. But make an objective review and actually try to use the product instead of just using the first scapegoat excuse you can get to bash it into the ground. If it had been a negative review because the product is bad I'd be the first in line to commend the reviewer for not spewing a bullshit from a product marketing sheet. That being said, this is not a good review, it's FUD all the way around.
      - TimStevens 16y ago
        I think I can resolve this little debate by saying that the latest revisions of the WakeMate hardware, for me, won't get through a full night. Fully charged at 9:30pm, battery dead before 5:45am. Regardless, a hopelessly optimistic battery indicator is a bad thing.
        ljf 16y ago
        The guy above you trying to argue that a duff battery meter didnt matter has really confused me. Anyway, interesting to hear more comments from people that actually have these.
        delackner 16y ago
        I really wonder what is the issue causing this. I bought two wakemates, one for myself and one for my mom as I'm home for the holidays, and for the past 3 nights each unit has functioned perfectly. As the package instructions say, before using them the first night we let them charge overnight for a full night because it said to charge fully before using the first time. The first two nights of usage we didn't charge the bands at all and they worked fine. After that we left them connected to the wall chargers all day, and they worked fine last night. iPod touch and iphone here, but if the devices don't even talk to the phone during the night, I don't see how that variable makes a difference.
silencio 16y ago
I don't know about you, but everything the reviewer addressed was important to me. Battery life being too short or being misreported means the device won't consistently work to wake me up, which kind of defeats the purpose of having something like the wakemate. Not being able to associate my sleep data/patterns with events I know occurred during my sleep means that data is next to useless to me. I've used devices like this before to improve my sleep as well as to wake me up on time every day. If I didn't have a diary and good analytics for what I did use (which honestly, I haven't found yet so I'm rolling my own to use with an iPhone alarm clock-type app...if someone would come in and fix this problem and roll it into a nice device I'd be all over their product), I wouldn't have known a lot of information about my habits that affect sleep. For example, I wouldn't have known that it was my punctual neighbor's certain actions that disturb me every weekday at 9am, which meant that if I wake up after 9 I feel more tired and annoyed because I didn't sleep as well as I do on weekends after 9am. (I eventually worked around this problem and feel a lot more rested nowadays.) Even the additional points the review mentioned about how it works with other people in bed matter to me. All these little things are things I think about when I look at purchasing gadgets like wakemate. Not everyone cares only about waking up...anything can try to do that from a $5 alarm clock to your phone, a significant other, and much more expensive gadgets. Wakemate has the potential to do more than just a dinky alarm clock, so I want to see what came of it.
- sp4rki 16y ago
  The guys behind Wakemate have already stated publicly that the battery lasts 2 to 3 days (actually 24 hours) depending on your sleeping patterns. The reviewer said that the apparatus ran out of juice at the end of the third day. It doesn't take a genius to realize that he should charge the damn thing every second day. Would you NOT (on purpose of course) charge your smartphone on the second day, when you know that it just doesn't last the full third day? Instead of charging the device every second day the reviewer decided to keep pushing for the three days that he fully knows the device doesn't last for him and his sleeping patterns. Battery estimates are just that, estimates, and vary greatly depending on the amount of usage a device gets. The reviewer knew that that thing is not lasting three days for him, and the review is a sarcasm ridden piece on how he was fooled to think that it would when the website clearly states that it might not last 3 days for everyone and actually depends on your sleeping patterns. Read the review again and you'll notice that the Wakemate does have all those things you want in an analytics package, but the reviewer dismissed it with a wave of sarcasm because according to him the only use for analytics and tags (for events, as you mention you want) are to tell you that you had a "crummy night." You will also notice that he states that the Wakemate works with YOUR movements as opposed to the movements of whomever you're in bed with, but he says this in a way that it's easy to misinterpret it the other way around. Immediately after the fact he starts complaining that the alarm might wake your significant other, which any alarm will do. My point is not that the review speaks negatively of the Wakemate, I don't even own one and really don't care much about it, but the review was completely lopsided. It belittled every good thing the device has (the analytics, the tagging, the raw data, the fact that it works even with other people on the bed, etc) and made a big deal about something that not only is not a bug deal, but works exactly as is stated by the product manufacturer. Other than the pairing issues the reviewer had, the rest of the review read like a sarcasm ridden payed "anti-advertisement" against the Wakemate.

by sp4rki 16y ago

andrewljohnson 16y ago

The reviewer posted that the device reported 11-12 hours of charge, and then it died. That doesn't sound like user error to me.

sp4rki 16y ago
The Wakemate website states that the device's battery lasts 2 to 3 days depending on your sleeping patterns. Battery estimates are bound to usage in every device from the Wakemate to your laptop. The reviewer realized that for him, the device lasts two days before needing a charge, and even then kept using it for the three days. As I already said, if you realize that your smartphone only lasts two days with your usage (even though the manufacturer might say that it can last up to three), it would be stupid to keep trying to use it for three days. It's user error to rely on estimates of 11 or 12 hours when you discover that you drain the battery faster than said estimates.
- ljf 16y ago
  Yes, as the device kept telling him it could last for longer. If I had a car that I found only really went 100 miles on a full tank, but kept telling me it was half full still, I would be pissed, and I would focus on that. This is a gadget review, not a life review. You dont see their other reviews taking on how items affect your life, just the quality and appropriatness of the product. Why did you think this would be different.
  - sp4rki 16y ago
    Horrible analogy. Once again, battery estimates are just that, ESTIMATES. Two days ago my magic mouse ran out of juice, at one point it said it had 13% charge and two hours later it said it had 2% and then an hour later it died. My laptop is telling me I have 2 hours and 19 minutes of charge. I just opened a youtube video and it changed almost instantly to 1 hour and 55 minutes. If the manufacturer tells you, "Hey your device will last two to three days depending on how much you move" and you realize that it only lasts two for you AND then you don't charge it on second days AND proceed to bash the product because "ohhh it kept running out of battery and what's the point of analytics hurr durr" you're officially a retard. You want to complain in a review that the estimation of the battery life sucked for you, fine go ahead, I have no problem with that. But make an objective review and actually try to use the product instead of just using the first scapegoat excuse you can get to bash it into the ground. If it had been a negative review because the product is bad I'd be the first in line to commend the reviewer for not spewing a bullshit from a product marketing sheet. That being said, this is not a good review, it's FUD all the way around.
    - TimStevens 16y ago
      I think I can resolve this little debate by saying that the latest revisions of the WakeMate hardware, for me, won't get through a full night. Fully charged at 9:30pm, battery dead before 5:45am. Regardless, a hopelessly optimistic battery indicator is a bad thing.
      - ljf 16y ago
        The guy above you trying to argue that a duff battery meter didnt matter has really confused me. Anyway, interesting to hear more comments from people that actually have these.
      - delackner 16y ago
        I really wonder what is the issue causing this. I bought two wakemates, one for myself and one for my mom as I'm home for the holidays, and for the past 3 nights each unit has functioned perfectly. As the package instructions say, before using them the first night we let them charge overnight for a full night because it said to charge fully before using the first time. The first two nights of usage we didn't charge the bands at all and they worked fine. After that we left them connected to the wall chargers all day, and they worked fine last night. iPod touch and iphone here, but if the devices don't even talk to the phone during the night, I don't see how that variable makes a difference.

silencio 16y ago

I don't know about you, but everything the reviewer addressed was important to me. Battery life being too short or being misreported means the device won't consistently work to wake me up, which kind of defeats the purpose of having something like the wakemate. Not being able to associate my sleep data/patterns with events I know occurred during my sleep means that data is next to useless to me. I've used devices like this before to improve my sleep as well as to wake me up on time every day. If I didn't have a diary and good analytics for what I did use (which honestly, I haven't found yet so I'm rolling my own to use with an iPhone alarm clock-type app...if someone would come in and fix this problem and roll it into a nice device I'd be all over their product), I wouldn't have known a lot of information about my habits that affect sleep. For example, I wouldn't have known that it was my punctual neighbor's certain actions that disturb me every weekday at 9am, which meant that if I wake up after 9 I feel more tired and annoyed because I didn't sleep as well as I do on weekends after 9am. (I eventually worked around this problem and feel a lot more rested nowadays.) Even the additional points the review mentioned about how it works with other people in bed matter to me. All these little things are things I think about when I look at purchasing gadgets like wakemate. Not everyone cares only about waking up...anything can try to do that from a $5 alarm clock to your phone, a significant other, and much more expensive gadgets. Wakemate has the potential to do more than just a dinky alarm clock, so I want to see what came of it.

sp4rki 16y ago
The guys behind Wakemate have already stated publicly that the battery lasts 2 to 3 days (actually 24 hours) depending on your sleeping patterns. The reviewer said that the apparatus ran out of juice at the end of the third day. It doesn't take a genius to realize that he should charge the damn thing every second day. Would you NOT (on purpose of course) charge your smartphone on the second day, when you know that it just doesn't last the full third day? Instead of charging the device every second day the reviewer decided to keep pushing for the three days that he fully knows the device doesn't last for him and his sleeping patterns. Battery estimates are just that, estimates, and vary greatly depending on the amount of usage a device gets. The reviewer knew that that thing is not lasting three days for him, and the review is a sarcasm ridden piece on how he was fooled to think that it would when the website clearly states that it might not last 3 days for everyone and actually depends on your sleeping patterns. Read the review again and you'll notice that the Wakemate does have all those things you want in an analytics package, but the reviewer dismissed it with a wave of sarcasm because according to him the only use for analytics and tags (for events, as you mention you want) are to tell you that you had a "crummy night." You will also notice that he states that the Wakemate works with YOUR movements as opposed to the movements of whomever you're in bed with, but he says this in a way that it's easy to misinterpret it the other way around. Immediately after the fact he starts complaining that the alarm might wake your significant other, which any alarm will do. My point is not that the review speaks negatively of the Wakemate, I don't even own one and really don't care much about it, but the review was completely lopsided. It belittled every good thing the device has (the analytics, the tagging, the raw data, the fact that it works even with other people on the bed, etc) and made a big deal about something that not only is not a bug deal, but works exactly as is stated by the product manufacturer. Other than the pairing issues the reviewer had, the rest of the review read like a sarcasm ridden payed "anti-advertisement" against the Wakemate.