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I do not think that is distinct to YIMBYs. I am forced to live with the externalities of high housing prices (3400 for a 900 sq.ft 2 bed room), lower freedom to

I do not think that is distinct to YIMBYs. I am forced to live with the externalities of high housing prices (3400 for a 900 sq.ft 2 bed room), lower freedom to utilize personal property (land), high homeless population, and cities you need a car to live in. Both ways will have externalities. I do not think I was dishonest about why anyone would oppose this. I own property in another city and it is bat shit to me that you can not build freely on your land. The people filing lawsuits about their view or forcing environmental impact studies (when it doesn't matter) need to get smacked back to their property lines. If they don't like it, they can buy the land they want to control. If they don't have enough money for that, tough.

irq11 7y ago
Once again: you’re arguing against something that I’m not saying. In fact, you’re making my point: the changes you want to make affect other people. That’s why they disagree with you. The “YIMBY movement” starts with a terrible, condescending name that implicitly mocks the other side. It’s as if the GOP changed it’s name to the “anti-libtard party”. Why should the people with the money and power listen to you when you position yourselves only as opposition to a cartoon version of what they believe? Also: every city in the world restricts what you can do with property you own. You can’t build a radioactive waste site in your backyard, or a pork rendering plant in your garage. Get over it.
- TACIXAT 7y ago
  I don't want to build a pork farm, I want some higher density housing so that I pay less in rent. This isn't an extreme thing. I am also a rich person and have heard some very dumb excuses as to why my colleagues' neighborhoods should stay zoned single family. From traffic to character. In the end, people are just preserving their home values at the expense of others and it is not a sustainable system. That motivation is misguided though, their million dollar plot of land is still going to be worth a million dollars with a duplex on it.

irq11 7y ago

Once again: you’re arguing against something that I’m not saying. In fact, you’re making my point: the changes you want to make affect other people. That’s why they disagree with you. The “YIMBY movement” starts with a terrible, condescending name that implicitly mocks the other side. It’s as if the GOP changed it’s name to the “anti-libtard party”. Why should the people with the money and power listen to you when you position yourselves only as opposition to a cartoon version of what they believe? Also: every city in the world restricts what you can do with property you own. You can’t build a radioactive waste site in your backyard, or a pork rendering plant in your garage. Get over it.

TACIXAT 7y ago
I don't want to build a pork farm, I want some higher density housing so that I pay less in rent. This isn't an extreme thing. I am also a rich person and have heard some very dumb excuses as to why my colleagues' neighborhoods should stay zoned single family. From traffic to character. In the end, people are just preserving their home values at the expense of others and it is not a sustainable system. That motivation is misguided though, their million dollar plot of land is still going to be worth a million dollars with a duplex on it.