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Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a

by skrowl 7y ago

Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. They recently created their own browser (a fork of Brave with all of the BAT sh*tcoin stuff removed) when Google and Firefox both censored their extension and it seems like it's lighter and faster than Chrome, at least in my testing.

knd775 7y ago
"censored" Relax. That's not what the word means.
- rat9988 7y ago
  Actually it's the right context. They wanted to censor the comments.
sascha_sl 7y ago
I requested the Gab Mastodon fork code a week or so ago. Normally worded email. Nothing antagonistic there. I know how to be professional. 4 days ago, CTO of Gab calling me an "SJW" on his Gab feed. Thanks, I'll consider it a certification. From the grand wizard of Gab Tech himself. /s There's plenty of other insanely toxic content on Gab. But if you're signed up to it and don't see the issue... there's really no point discussing that with you.
- kkarakk 7y ago
  no proof=your comment might as well not exist
  - sascha_sl 7y ago
    https://witches.live/@anna/102343755810317766 https://witches.live/@anna/102343755810317766 (hn mods, if this is too political, it's okay to delete)
    - pmarreck 7y ago
      I'm already nauseous just browsing this, WTF? Is this where people are headed? Extreme tribalism in the unmoderated portions of the Internet where you're either "a known SJW" or "a Nazi" with no room in between? If so we're fucked.
      - 6cd6beb 7y ago
        It's definitely like that on the internet; a lot of people on both sides of the US political spectrum seem to think there are two problems: 1 - Their chosen political party is not pushing far left/right enough 2 - The opposing party is obviously criminally bent on destroying the country. Actually maybe three problems; the third being that "centrists" (anyone who isn't radicalized one way or the other) haven't come out against the party that's obviously criminally bent on destroying the country. I guess that might bleed into real-world politics, but it's unfortunate. I think I remember when it was more "their political ideas are stupid and don't work" and less "they're 100% acting in bad faith and literally trying to destroy the nation". All I can say is prepare for some hard times, followed by the US not having the geopolitical 1st place. Maybe it's too stark a warning but unless we start to see each other as something other than demons hell-bent on destroying all good in the world, I don't see how anything productive is going to happen. A note of hope though - the AOC/Cruz collaboration sounds nice.
        catacombs 7y ago
        > I guess that might bleed into real-world politics, but it's unfortunate. > All I can say is prepare for some hard times, followed by the US not having the geopolitical 1st place. Maybe it's too stark a warning but unless we start to see each other as something other than demons hell-bent on destroying all good in the world, I don't see how anything productive is going to happen. This discourse has certainly bled into the real-world politics, especially in Congress. Throw in the Internet's lawless landscape, a reckless leader, extremism and nationalism, and you have a powder keg ready to explode. During the Democratic debate last night, many candidates said climate change, China, Russia and even Trump were the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States. What none of them said was the continuing divide between the right and left in this country, which, within at least another two or three decades, could escalate to a full-blown conflict. Many people scoff at the idea of another civil war: "Not possible" or "Not in this era." I'm worried we're sowing the seeds for a future conflict, and other countries, like China and Russia, eagerly await for the shining beacon of hope, which the United States boasts to be, will tear itself apart from within.
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago
  I mean, reading the below link, including the email he sent later... he arguably has some point in that many Masto folks would arguably define themselves as "SJWs" from my experience... but he definitely used it with an intended negative connotation in his post. But yeah, he just seems... remarkably (although not shockingly, I suppose) unprofessional in how he communicates (there's zero reason to even bring up politics in a request for source code of an AGPL project), which isn't a good look for someone acting as a CTO.
- writepub 7y ago
  There's no evidence he was referring to you, as no handle is cited in his response. Not that I'm taking sides, but evidence actually matters
  - sascha_sl 7y ago
    I'll write up a post about this entire thing (and the irony of rob going BUT THESE SJW MAKE SO MANY ASSUMPTIONS) eventually, but the tl;dr is I followed up by email, he confirmed he meant me and apologized while still assuming I was someone else, so I jokingly asked for a certificate of being an SJW I got one for being "an independent thinker" with someone elses name on it. And because that sounds like an insanely farfetched story... here's the certificate with the person's name he assumed I was on it. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583567030901538859/594056057643597845/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583567030901538859/59...
- WindowsFon4life 7y ago
  It's short for "Schicklgruber Jugend Weiblich"
- gfosco 7y ago
  Not surprising that he jumped to that conclusion, considering the response they've gotten from the Mastodon community. Not only are people lobbying apps to hardcode bans to entire domains that aren't even live, they're planning to lobby app stores to pressure apps that refuse to implement those bans.
  - sascha_sl 7y ago
    You got it the wrong way around. Two apps have voluntarily decided that's the right thing to do. Lots of others have not. Gab deciding to advertise as "we have apps they are [generic mastodon app]" is an existential threat. Because appstores don't care about details like that.
gfosco 7y ago
Yeah, the browser project is quite nice... and it has more room to improve in terms of size/speed. While most of the Brave stuff is disabled, some is still compiled/linked in the build.
catacombs 7y ago
> Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. From what I've seen, Dissenter is just a way for people who "believe in free speech" to use the N words in comments without repercussions.
- skrowl 7y ago
  {anecdote} {statement justifying a ban of free speech here}. Check out what has happened other times in history when people have applied this type of logic.

by skrowl 7y ago

knd775 7y ago

"censored" Relax. That's not what the word means.

rat9988 7y ago
Actually it's the right context. They wanted to censor the comments.

sascha_sl 7y ago

I requested the Gab Mastodon fork code a week or so ago. Normally worded email. Nothing antagonistic there. I know how to be professional. 4 days ago, CTO of Gab calling me an "SJW" on his Gab feed. Thanks, I'll consider it a certification. From the grand wizard of Gab Tech himself. /s There's plenty of other insanely toxic content on Gab. But if you're signed up to it and don't see the issue... there's really no point discussing that with you.

kkarakk 7y ago
no proof=your comment might as well not exist
- sascha_sl 7y ago
  https://witches.live/@anna/102343755810317766 https://witches.live/@anna/102343755810317766 (hn mods, if this is too political, it's okay to delete)
  - pmarreck 7y ago
    I'm already nauseous just browsing this, WTF? Is this where people are headed? Extreme tribalism in the unmoderated portions of the Internet where you're either "a known SJW" or "a Nazi" with no room in between? If so we're fucked.
    - 6cd6beb 7y ago
      It's definitely like that on the internet; a lot of people on both sides of the US political spectrum seem to think there are two problems: 1 - Their chosen political party is not pushing far left/right enough 2 - The opposing party is obviously criminally bent on destroying the country. Actually maybe three problems; the third being that "centrists" (anyone who isn't radicalized one way or the other) haven't come out against the party that's obviously criminally bent on destroying the country. I guess that might bleed into real-world politics, but it's unfortunate. I think I remember when it was more "their political ideas are stupid and don't work" and less "they're 100% acting in bad faith and literally trying to destroy the nation". All I can say is prepare for some hard times, followed by the US not having the geopolitical 1st place. Maybe it's too stark a warning but unless we start to see each other as something other than demons hell-bent on destroying all good in the world, I don't see how anything productive is going to happen. A note of hope though - the AOC/Cruz collaboration sounds nice.
      - catacombs 7y ago
        > I guess that might bleed into real-world politics, but it's unfortunate. > All I can say is prepare for some hard times, followed by the US not having the geopolitical 1st place. Maybe it's too stark a warning but unless we start to see each other as something other than demons hell-bent on destroying all good in the world, I don't see how anything productive is going to happen. This discourse has certainly bled into the real-world politics, especially in Congress. Throw in the Internet's lawless landscape, a reckless leader, extremism and nationalism, and you have a powder keg ready to explode. During the Democratic debate last night, many candidates said climate change, China, Russia and even Trump were the greatest geopolitical threat to the United States. What none of them said was the continuing divide between the right and left in this country, which, within at least another two or three decades, could escalate to a full-blown conflict. Many people scoff at the idea of another civil war: "Not possible" or "Not in this era." I'm worried we're sowing the seeds for a future conflict, and other countries, like China and Russia, eagerly await for the shining beacon of hope, which the United States boasts to be, will tear itself apart from within.
ocdtrekkie 7y ago
I mean, reading the below link, including the email he sent later... he arguably has some point in that many Masto folks would arguably define themselves as "SJWs" from my experience... but he definitely used it with an intended negative connotation in his post. But yeah, he just seems... remarkably (although not shockingly, I suppose) unprofessional in how he communicates (there's zero reason to even bring up politics in a request for source code of an AGPL project), which isn't a good look for someone acting as a CTO.
writepub 7y ago
There's no evidence he was referring to you, as no handle is cited in his response. Not that I'm taking sides, but evidence actually matters
- sascha_sl 7y ago
  I'll write up a post about this entire thing (and the irony of rob going BUT THESE SJW MAKE SO MANY ASSUMPTIONS) eventually, but the tl;dr is I followed up by email, he confirmed he meant me and apologized while still assuming I was someone else, so I jokingly asked for a certificate of being an SJW I got one for being "an independent thinker" with someone elses name on it. And because that sounds like an insanely farfetched story... here's the certificate with the person's name he assumed I was on it. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583567030901538859/594056057643597845/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583567030901538859/59...
WindowsFon4life 7y ago
It's short for "Schicklgruber Jugend Weiblich"
gfosco 7y ago
Not surprising that he jumped to that conclusion, considering the response they've gotten from the Mastodon community. Not only are people lobbying apps to hardcode bans to entire domains that aren't even live, they're planning to lobby app stores to pressure apps that refuse to implement those bans.
- sascha_sl 7y ago
  You got it the wrong way around. Two apps have voluntarily decided that's the right thing to do. Lots of others have not. Gab deciding to advertise as "we have apps they are [generic mastodon app]" is an existential threat. Because appstores don't care about details like that.

gfosco 7y ago

Yeah, the browser project is quite nice... and it has more room to improve in terms of size/speed. While most of the Brave stuff is disabled, some is still compiled/linked in the build.

catacombs 7y ago

> Dissenter is pretty great for commenting on things that have heavy-handed censorship, like political YouTube videos. From what I've seen, Dissenter is just a way for people who "believe in free speech" to use the N words in comments without repercussions.

skrowl 7y ago
{anecdote} {statement justifying a ban of free speech here}. Check out what has happened other times in history when people have applied this type of logic.