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My point is that atheists and agnostics do not usually believe in creationism. Therefore, their belief in intelligent design may indicate it is not creationism

by yters 7y ago

My point is that atheists and agnostics do not usually believe in creationism. Therefore, their belief in intelligent design may indicate it is not creationism. Additionally, for the Christians who believe in intelligent design, most of them also believe in evolution and an old earth. So, it doesn't seem like the majority of intelligent design advocates are themselves creationists. My perception is most intelligent design advocates are convinced that stochastic processes cannot generate highly complex structures with very precisely specified functionality. Thus, they believe the source of this functionality must lie outside of traditional evolutionary explanations.

bediger4000 7y ago
There's plenty of theists and agnostics that do not believe in creationism or intelligent design. Therefore, their disbelief in intelligent design my indicate that it is creationism. It does seem like the majority of intelligent design advocates are creationists. My assertion is just as powerful as your assertion: both are fact free.
- yters 7y ago
  I personally know or have met almost all of the top intelligent design proponents, such as: Dembski, Marks, Behe, Johnson, Axe, Meyer, Sanford, Guillermo, Wells, and Sternberg. Most are certainly not of the 'god created the world in 6 days' variety creationists. Most believe in evolution and an old earth, consistent with most scientists today. They only disagree with whether stochastic processes can generate highly complex, highly specified functionality. They believe this because they believe the evidence is very strongly in favor of their position. They are not advocating their position because of a religious agenda. In fact, at least for some like Sanford, it is the other way around. He is one of the few 6 day creationist ID advocates, but he became a creationist from being an atheist after seeing the evidence for ID.
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by yters 7y ago

bediger4000 7y ago

There's plenty of theists and agnostics that do not believe in creationism or intelligent design. Therefore, their disbelief in intelligent design my indicate that it is creationism. It does seem like the majority of intelligent design advocates are creationists. My assertion is just as powerful as your assertion: both are fact free.

yters 7y ago
I personally know or have met almost all of the top intelligent design proponents, such as: Dembski, Marks, Behe, Johnson, Axe, Meyer, Sanford, Guillermo, Wells, and Sternberg. Most are certainly not of the 'god created the world in 6 days' variety creationists. Most believe in evolution and an old earth, consistent with most scientists today. They only disagree with whether stochastic processes can generate highly complex, highly specified functionality. They believe this because they believe the evidence is very strongly in favor of their position. They are not advocating their position because of a religious agenda. In fact, at least for some like Sanford, it is the other way around. He is one of the few 6 day creationist ID advocates, but he became a creationist from being an atheist after seeing the evidence for ID.
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