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I've had a few sites that wouldn't work for me without booting up my windows laptop and running edge. One of them is the place I make car payments. I use uBlo

I've had a few sites that wouldn't work for me without booting up my windows laptop and running edge. One of them is the place I make car payments. I use uBlock Origin at home. I use NoScript at work. I like it because it blocks ads and because it does break much of the web. I don't want auto-playing videos, I don't want an enhanced experience, I just want to find the information I'm looking for. If the website I go to won't show me anything even after enabling the main domain and a CDN, then I move on to the next choice. Enabling js on the main domain usually makes menus and such work. The rest seems to be ad-related, from what I can tell. There are a handful of sites where I really am looking for an enhanced experience. Mainly my banking sites, sites I frequent for shopping, and some forums. Most other places I visit I'm happy that the site is mostly broken as long as I can see what I went there to find. In many cases, I'd be happier with a 90's era gray page with text and pictures. But then I'm old.

ecmascript 7y ago
Ok cool to hear your story, thanks for sharing it. If you want, I can tell you some of the apps I use. I use Slack, Telegram, Visual Studio Code, Discord, Tidal (as a PWA) and a bunch of other web apps. Some apps I really do require to be fancy, like fastmail. Using it with normal forms and no ajax would suck imo. I am myself also building an app where we heavily rely on a map and rendering stuff upon it. It is very interactive, and it would not be possible (at least to the extent that we want to deliver it) to make it without javascript. I also think most of the "desktop" apps I heavily use wouldn't really exist for linux if electron didn't exist which is kind of sad. But now they do and they work wonders, so good I use them every day. You can barely tell that Discord or Visual Studio Code is web apps nowadays since they work so damn good, better than most hacky open source alternatives that exist for linux. I think it's cool that you and some other people can have a functional user experience without javascript but for me it's simply not possible if I want to enjoy all the benefits that running with javascript enables me. I actually rather use web apps, progressive web apps etc than install a native app that can ruin my entire computer. They are equally fast nowadays, web apps often get updates a lot faster and it isn't a risk to update the app. Just refresh the app and everything is safe and sound, especially with PWAs. Just check this screenshot, it even looks native (and hardware keys work fine): https://i.imgur.com/OeOaMPt.png https://i.imgur.com/OeOaMPt.png

ecmascript 7y ago

Ok cool to hear your story, thanks for sharing it. If you want, I can tell you some of the apps I use. I use Slack, Telegram, Visual Studio Code, Discord, Tidal (as a PWA) and a bunch of other web apps. Some apps I really do require to be fancy, like fastmail. Using it with normal forms and no ajax would suck imo. I am myself also building an app where we heavily rely on a map and rendering stuff upon it. It is very interactive, and it would not be possible (at least to the extent that we want to deliver it) to make it without javascript. I also think most of the "desktop" apps I heavily use wouldn't really exist for linux if electron didn't exist which is kind of sad. But now they do and they work wonders, so good I use them every day. You can barely tell that Discord or Visual Studio Code is web apps nowadays since they work so damn good, better than most hacky open source alternatives that exist for linux. I think it's cool that you and some other people can have a functional user experience without javascript but for me it's simply not possible if I want to enjoy all the benefits that running with javascript enables me. I actually rather use web apps, progressive web apps etc than install a native app that can ruin my entire computer. They are equally fast nowadays, web apps often get updates a lot faster and it isn't a risk to update the app. Just refresh the app and everything is safe and sound, especially with PWAs. Just check this screenshot, it even looks native (and hardware keys work fine): https://i.imgur.com/OeOaMPt.png https://i.imgur.com/OeOaMPt.png