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Reddit is composed of tens of thousands of subreddits, and relies on volunteer moderators to police them. For a single subreddit to demand at least one admin in

Reddit is composed of tens of thousands of subreddits, and relies on volunteer moderators to police them. For a single subreddit to demand at least one admin intervention a day is absurd.

leereeves 7y ago
One of reddit's most active subs would naturally demand more than most of those ten thousand mostly niche subs.
- phailhaus 7y ago
  Do you have a data source showing this? Can we compare the amount of admin intervention across subreddits?
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  - leereeves 7y ago
    Comparing the amount of intervention the admins would not be a useful indicator of anything except their bias. As evidence of that bias, consider their curation of r/popular, where they choose what to show. They actively promote posts from the left and actively hide posts from the right. For example, this 18 hour old Democrat talking point [1] with 10k net upvotes is displayed before numerous posts that received 3x to 8x as many net upvotes in less time. And extreme left wing subs continue to be featured on r/popular (many brigading and harassing right wing subs) while reddit restricts right wing subs. 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/c5kuhx/ukrauthammerspool_describes_why_saying/ https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/c5kuhx/ukrauthammer...
    - phailhaus 7y ago
      > Comparing the amount of intervention the admins would not be a useful indicator of anything except their bias So first you claim that any other popular subreddit would have as much admin intervention, but then you say that we shouldn't actually investigate this claim because even if we found that you were wrong, you're still right? Also the "net upvotes" that Reddit displays are not literal net upvotes. Those numbers are fudged in order to prevent conveying too much information. Reddit skews liberal, this is no surprise. The height of a post depends on what subs you are subscribed to, and on r/all it depends on the preference of everybody else. Which skews liberal.
      - leereeves 7y ago
        No point in talking with you if you're going to put words in my mouth. I didn't claim that "any other popular subreddit would have as much admin intervention". It's clear that TD suffers much more scrutiny and restriction from the admins. I was simply refuting your "tens of thousands of subreddits" comment.
        phailhaus 7y ago
        For the record, you said: > One of reddit's most active subs would naturally demand more than most of those ten thousand mostly niche subs. This clearly implies that the amount of admin intervention in r/The_Donald is highly correlated with its popularity rather the relative toxicity of the subreddit, no?
        leereeves 7y ago
        Compared to the "tens of thousands of subreddits" you mentioned in the comment I replied to, yes. A sub with 750k users will generally have more intervention than a sub with 750. Now you're changing the subject to "any other popular subreddit" which was not in the comment I replied to and thus was obviously not what I was talking about. To make that clear, I'm saying there's a correlation between popularity and number of interventions, but that's not the only factor. Admin bias is another factor, and I'm sure there are others I can't think of at the moment. As for "relative toxicity", TD isn't any more toxic than other political subs on reddit. The whole place is a cesspool. Unless you fit in perfectly with the group on any political sub you'll be treated badly. But right wing subs suffer additional toxicity from the admins.
        phailhaus 7y ago
        I mean, the fact that you can get banned on TD immediately for commenting anything even remotely critical of the president suggests that it is very unlikely that TD "isn't any more toxic than other political subs on reddit." There were entire threads in TD calling for violent intervention in Oregon; similar posts are not found in any of the other political subs. Even in response to the quarantine, there are plenty of comments suggesting violent revolution. This claim that "other subs are just as toxic" seems to be a common refrain among TD supporters (as well as white nationalist hate subs). Do you have any evidence to support this?
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Reddit is composed of tens of thousands of subreddits, and relies on volunteer moderators to police them. For a single subreddit to demand at least one admin intervention a day is absurd.

leereeves 7y ago

One of reddit's most active subs would naturally demand more than most of those ten thousand mostly niche subs.

phailhaus 7y ago
Do you have a data source showing this? Can we compare the amount of admin intervention across subreddits?
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- leereeves 7y ago
  Comparing the amount of intervention the admins would not be a useful indicator of anything except their bias. As evidence of that bias, consider their curation of r/popular, where they choose what to show. They actively promote posts from the left and actively hide posts from the right. For example, this 18 hour old Democrat talking point [1] with 10k net upvotes is displayed before numerous posts that received 3x to 8x as many net upvotes in less time. And extreme left wing subs continue to be featured on r/popular (many brigading and harassing right wing subs) while reddit restricts right wing subs. 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/c5kuhx/ukrauthammerspool_describes_why_saying/ https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/c5kuhx/ukrauthammer...
  - phailhaus 7y ago
    > Comparing the amount of intervention the admins would not be a useful indicator of anything except their bias So first you claim that any other popular subreddit would have as much admin intervention, but then you say that we shouldn't actually investigate this claim because even if we found that you were wrong, you're still right? Also the "net upvotes" that Reddit displays are not literal net upvotes. Those numbers are fudged in order to prevent conveying too much information. Reddit skews liberal, this is no surprise. The height of a post depends on what subs you are subscribed to, and on r/all it depends on the preference of everybody else. Which skews liberal.
    - leereeves 7y ago
      No point in talking with you if you're going to put words in my mouth. I didn't claim that "any other popular subreddit would have as much admin intervention". It's clear that TD suffers much more scrutiny and restriction from the admins. I was simply refuting your "tens of thousands of subreddits" comment.
      - phailhaus 7y ago
        For the record, you said: > One of reddit's most active subs would naturally demand more than most of those ten thousand mostly niche subs. This clearly implies that the amount of admin intervention in r/The_Donald is highly correlated with its popularity rather the relative toxicity of the subreddit, no?
        leereeves 7y ago
        Compared to the "tens of thousands of subreddits" you mentioned in the comment I replied to, yes. A sub with 750k users will generally have more intervention than a sub with 750. Now you're changing the subject to "any other popular subreddit" which was not in the comment I replied to and thus was obviously not what I was talking about. To make that clear, I'm saying there's a correlation between popularity and number of interventions, but that's not the only factor. Admin bias is another factor, and I'm sure there are others I can't think of at the moment. As for "relative toxicity", TD isn't any more toxic than other political subs on reddit. The whole place is a cesspool. Unless you fit in perfectly with the group on any political sub you'll be treated badly. But right wing subs suffer additional toxicity from the admins.
        phailhaus 7y ago
        I mean, the fact that you can get banned on TD immediately for commenting anything even remotely critical of the president suggests that it is very unlikely that TD "isn't any more toxic than other political subs on reddit." There were entire threads in TD calling for violent intervention in Oregon; similar posts are not found in any of the other political subs. Even in response to the quarantine, there are plenty of comments suggesting violent revolution. This claim that "other subs are just as toxic" seems to be a common refrain among TD supporters (as well as white nationalist hate subs). Do you have any evidence to support this?
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