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I don't think there are many subreddits that praise and love law enforcement more than the_donald. They used a Media Matters hit piece to censor and contain on

by gfosco 7y ago

I don't think there are many subreddits that praise and love law enforcement more than the_donald. They used a Media Matters hit piece to censor and contain one of the most popular subs, for purely partisan reasons.

bduerst 7y ago
Did you read the Media Matters piece? Here it is in case you hadn't: https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump-subreddit-is-full-of-calls-for-violence-in-support-of-Oregon-Republicans/224018 https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump... Scroll down and read the screenshots. It doesn't quite matter what the subreddit praised before when they still broke the rules.
- DuskStar 7y ago
  If I make a sockpuppet and post the same comments in r/politics, does that mean it should get quarantined? A lot of those screenshots are "1 point, 11 minutes ago" or "2 points, 17 minutes ago". If that's being expanded to cover an entire subreddit, then no sub would be safe when applied consistently.
  - bduerst 7y ago
    If you look at these accounts, many are 1+ years old. Calling them sock puppets is confirmation bias to avoid reading the article.
    - DuskStar 7y ago
      Age is not a good determination of sockpuppetness, at least with competent opponents. Past activity might be, since that at least costs something, while age just costs prep time.
      - bduerst 7y ago
        Okay, did you look at the age and the comment activity of these accounts? Because they're not sockpuppets accounts. You're making a textbook No True Scotsman.
        DuskStar 7y ago
        I don't doubt that many of the accounts screenshotted in the article linked are actual, active accounts on /r/The_Donald. I doubt that you can usefully distinguish real accounts from fake ones for the purposes of identifying false flag attacks in other subreddits.
  - dwild 7y ago
    A lot of those screenshots are theses too: - 49 votes, 9 hours ago - 27 votes, 7 hours ago - 53 points, 1 day ago - 66 points, 1 day ago Go do a sockpuppet and do the same! That won't last long and you'll get down-voted heavily.
    - DuskStar 7y ago
      My impression reading the article was the more blatant the call to violence, the lower the score. I haven't exactly done a proper study of that, of course.
      - dwild 7y ago
        You may need to works on your impression then. All the ones I quoted were blatant call to violence. All with good amount of upvote and pretty old. "None of this gets fixed without people picking up rifles." - 49 votes, 9 hours ago "The only way to get it back is to burn Portland and Eugene to the ground." - 27 votes, 7 hours ago "No problems shooting a cop trying to strip rights from Citizens." - 53 points, 1 day ago "Where is the militia to help protect this man?" - 66 points, 1 day ago

by gfosco 7y ago

bduerst 7y ago

Did you read the Media Matters piece? Here it is in case you hadn't: https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump-subreddit-is-full-of-calls-for-violence-in-support-of-Oregon-Republicans/224018 https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump... Scroll down and read the screenshots. It doesn't quite matter what the subreddit praised before when they still broke the rules.

DuskStar 7y ago
If I make a sockpuppet and post the same comments in r/politics, does that mean it should get quarantined? A lot of those screenshots are "1 point, 11 minutes ago" or "2 points, 17 minutes ago". If that's being expanded to cover an entire subreddit, then no sub would be safe when applied consistently.
- bduerst 7y ago
  If you look at these accounts, many are 1+ years old. Calling them sock puppets is confirmation bias to avoid reading the article.
  - DuskStar 7y ago
    Age is not a good determination of sockpuppetness, at least with competent opponents. Past activity might be, since that at least costs something, while age just costs prep time.
    - bduerst 7y ago
      Okay, did you look at the age and the comment activity of these accounts? Because they're not sockpuppets accounts. You're making a textbook No True Scotsman.
      - DuskStar 7y ago
        I don't doubt that many of the accounts screenshotted in the article linked are actual, active accounts on /r/The_Donald. I doubt that you can usefully distinguish real accounts from fake ones for the purposes of identifying false flag attacks in other subreddits.
- dwild 7y ago
  A lot of those screenshots are theses too: - 49 votes, 9 hours ago - 27 votes, 7 hours ago - 53 points, 1 day ago - 66 points, 1 day ago Go do a sockpuppet and do the same! That won't last long and you'll get down-voted heavily.
  - DuskStar 7y ago
    My impression reading the article was the more blatant the call to violence, the lower the score. I haven't exactly done a proper study of that, of course.
    - dwild 7y ago
      You may need to works on your impression then. All the ones I quoted were blatant call to violence. All with good amount of upvote and pretty old. "None of this gets fixed without people picking up rifles." - 49 votes, 9 hours ago "The only way to get it back is to burn Portland and Eugene to the ground." - 27 votes, 7 hours ago "No problems shooting a cop trying to strip rights from Citizens." - 53 points, 1 day ago "Where is the militia to help protect this man?" - 66 points, 1 day ago