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Okay, I'll bite-- what would you propose as an alternative to prisons? I'm intrigued, and frankly amused, at the idea that there aren't individuals who must be

Okay, I'll bite-- what would you propose as an alternative to prisons? I'm intrigued, and frankly amused, at the idea that there aren't individuals who must be sequestered from society due to past behavior.

scarecrowbob 7y ago
since you're actively laughing, I'll just tell you to google the wiki page for prison abolition. Surely you're creative enough to think of at least 3 or 4 other modes where we sequester people "from society due to past behavior"... there are a lot of other modalities than, say throwing people in an oubliette or conscripting them into an army. Some are actually ethical (in my opinion, which is far from the only legitiamte one), unlike prison in the US (also,, I do understand that this is my opinion as well).
- ryanmercer 7y ago
  So we should just let child rapists and murderers roam free to offend again, with no consequences?
  - DanBC 7y ago
    > there are a lot of other modalities Seems pretty clear. What about this did you not understand?
    - ryanmercer 7y ago
      I understood that exactly zero were provided that allowed them to not still roam free. Forcing a child rapist or murder into the military is not a viable option.
- homonculus1 7y ago
  O enlightened sage, I am indeed too stupid and ethically depraved to see the truth that thieves and murderers can be trusted to continue walking among us without any physical restraint. Please bestow upon my puny mind the wisdom of your compassionate, holistic system which guarantees their rehabilitation.
DanBC 7y ago
> at the idea that there aren't individuals who must be sequestered from society due to past behavior. But over 2 million Americans? At a cost of over $74bn?
- homonculus1 7y ago
  Is this a binary issue? Reforming the criminalization and overprosecution of numerous victimless activities does not require abolishing prisons entirely, which would be completely asinine.

scarecrowbob 7y ago

since you're actively laughing, I'll just tell you to google the wiki page for prison abolition. Surely you're creative enough to think of at least 3 or 4 other modes where we sequester people "from society due to past behavior"... there are a lot of other modalities than, say throwing people in an oubliette or conscripting them into an army. Some are actually ethical (in my opinion, which is far from the only legitiamte one), unlike prison in the US (also,, I do understand that this is my opinion as well).

ryanmercer 7y ago
So we should just let child rapists and murderers roam free to offend again, with no consequences?
- DanBC 7y ago
  > there are a lot of other modalities Seems pretty clear. What about this did you not understand?
  - ryanmercer 7y ago
    I understood that exactly zero were provided that allowed them to not still roam free. Forcing a child rapist or murder into the military is not a viable option.
homonculus1 7y ago
O enlightened sage, I am indeed too stupid and ethically depraved to see the truth that thieves and murderers can be trusted to continue walking among us without any physical restraint. Please bestow upon my puny mind the wisdom of your compassionate, holistic system which guarantees their rehabilitation.

DanBC 7y ago

> at the idea that there aren't individuals who must be sequestered from society due to past behavior. But over 2 million Americans? At a cost of over $74bn?

homonculus1 7y ago
Is this a binary issue? Reforming the criminalization and overprosecution of numerous victimless activities does not require abolishing prisons entirely, which would be completely asinine.