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From what I gather, the reason was that there were calls to violence that weren't deleted sufficiently fast by the mods. Someone correct me if this is wrong. T

by rofo1 7y ago

From what I gather, the reason was that there were calls to violence that weren't deleted sufficiently fast by the mods. Someone correct me if this is wrong. This seems like it would be easy to replicate this on any subreddit, doesn't it? Get a group of people and deliberately target subreddits in various hours of the day with calls for violence, and then report them to the admins of reddit. Wouldn't this, in theory at least, quarantine any subreddit? Something doesn't add up here.

equalunique 7y ago
The Against Hate Subreddit orchestrated similar false-flag attacks last year and successfully shut down many other subreddits. During 2016 on Facebook, similar spamming tactics were used to shut down many pages promoting Bernie Sanders. If it really were something orchestrated by users of T_D, then why would they report it to reddit? It's more likely that outside forces had a hand in this.
- rofo1 7y ago
  Maybe it's unclear from my post, but I don't think T_D users did this, or even deserve this. I was merely commenting how easy is to do this to other subreddits, so any subreddit can get banned etc. So maybe Reddit should reconsider their position on banning solely because of this, if this is in fact the only reason they quarantined T_D.
  - equalunique 7y ago
    So I think we're on the same page. Not sure why you got downvoted, but that wasn't me. I was only trying to list a couple of examples that might add to your theory.
sawjet 7y ago
Media Matters a Political action group with the mission of "comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media." posted this[0] article just 2 days ago. I'm pretty sure this same source has been banned from the politics subreddit for self-promotion and astroturfing comments but I can't find the source. Amusingly, all of the wayback archives for the r/politics blacklist have been purged from existence. [0]https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump-subreddit-is-full-of-calls-for-violence-in-support-of-Oregon-Republicans/224018 https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump...
ng12 7y ago
Judging by the fact that there are multiple watchdog-style subreddits dedicated to policing Reddit content (Against Hate Subreddits, Top Minds, SRS, plus others) I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Can_Not 7y ago
I look forward to any supporting evidence for your conspiracy shower thought.
- rofo1 7y ago
  Interesting :) What part of my post do you find it to be 'conspiracy' ? That's the reason they stated for the quarantine - that's official and confirmed. I quote: “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon” [0] Since they remove all such posts from there (also can be proved by searching through the subreddit), that must mean that the speed of removal was the ultimate reason, right? The mods said something similar I believe: “It would seem they’ve set up an impossible standard as a reason to kill us before the 2020 election.” [0] I think "impossible standard" means that nobody can delete the posts faster than that. If you accept all of this on face value (guy posts on subreddit, mods don't react "quick enough", subreddit gets quarantined - end of story), then good for you! I've got a bridge to sell you :) [0] - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/26/reddit-the-donald-trump-quarantined-subreddit https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/26/reddit-the-d...

by rofo1 7y ago

equalunique 7y ago

The Against Hate Subreddit orchestrated similar false-flag attacks last year and successfully shut down many other subreddits. During 2016 on Facebook, similar spamming tactics were used to shut down many pages promoting Bernie Sanders. If it really were something orchestrated by users of T_D, then why would they report it to reddit? It's more likely that outside forces had a hand in this.

rofo1 7y ago
Maybe it's unclear from my post, but I don't think T_D users did this, or even deserve this. I was merely commenting how easy is to do this to other subreddits, so any subreddit can get banned etc. So maybe Reddit should reconsider their position on banning solely because of this, if this is in fact the only reason they quarantined T_D.
- equalunique 7y ago
  So I think we're on the same page. Not sure why you got downvoted, but that wasn't me. I was only trying to list a couple of examples that might add to your theory.

sawjet 7y ago

Media Matters a Political action group with the mission of "comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media." posted this[0] article just 2 days ago. I'm pretty sure this same source has been banned from the politics subreddit for self-promotion and astroturfing comments but I can't find the source. Amusingly, all of the wayback archives for the r/politics blacklist have been purged from existence. [0]https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump-subreddit-is-full-of-calls-for-violence-in-support-of-Oregon-Republicans/224018 https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/06/24/A-pro-Trump...

ng12 7y ago

Judging by the fact that there are multiple watchdog-style subreddits dedicated to policing Reddit content (Against Hate Subreddits, Top Minds, SRS, plus others) I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Can_Not 7y ago

I look forward to any supporting evidence for your conspiracy shower thought.

rofo1 7y ago
Interesting :) What part of my post do you find it to be 'conspiracy' ? That's the reason they stated for the quarantine - that's official and confirmed. I quote: “encouragement of violence towards police officers and public officials in Oregon” [0] Since they remove all such posts from there (also can be proved by searching through the subreddit), that must mean that the speed of removal was the ultimate reason, right? The mods said something similar I believe: “It would seem they’ve set up an impossible standard as a reason to kill us before the 2020 election.” [0] I think "impossible standard" means that nobody can delete the posts faster than that. If you accept all of this on face value (guy posts on subreddit, mods don't react "quick enough", subreddit gets quarantined - end of story), then good for you! I've got a bridge to sell you :) [0] - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/26/reddit-the-donald-trump-quarantined-subreddit https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/26/reddit-the-d...