I'm very sorry for whatever you endured behind the Iron Curtain but I'm from Europe too and you don't get draw arbitrary lines between peoples. You can't really

I'm very sorry for whatever you endured behind the Iron Curtain but I'm from Europe too and you don't get draw arbitrary lines between peoples. You can't really say that Russia is culturally and historically part of Europe but then with the next breath deny that they are part of European society. Russia is not an enemy of Europe, looks like Russia is returning to the Council of Europe: https://www.ft.com/content/dee5c792-9731-11e9-8cfb-30c211dcd229 https://www.ft.com/content/dee5c792-9731-11e9-8cfb-30c211dcd... – It'd be a strange thing for a non-European country to be part of the Council of Europe. I am not saying that there isn't a deep mistrust there and undeniably there is much friction and animosity. But Germany would hardly decide to construct an essential energy pipeline with an enemy, would it? In your mind you see Russia as an enemy of Europe but many people in Europe do not see Russia that way. Which group is correct? Maybe life isn't black and white and the truth is somewhere in the middle? There's a difference between being a geopolitical rival and an outright enemy. It troubles me deeply that there is so much hostile speech on HackerNews for our brothers and sisters in Russia and China.