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> “Now, I accept,” he went on in an uncertain tone, “that as a result some small children were eaten by a shark. But how much more pleasure did the MAJORITY get

by DanBC 7y ago

> “Now, I accept,” he went on in an uncertain tone, “that as a result some small children were eaten by a shark. But how much more pleasure did the MAJORITY get from those beaches as a result of the boldness of the Mayor in Jaws?” A small reminder that this is a direct cause of Grenfell, where 72 people died in a burning building. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire

chippy 7y ago
could you explain your comment as I did a search on this page and saw no mention of this
- DanBC 7y ago
  Boris Johnson is claiming that red tape hinders business and that we need less of it, and sure some people are going to be harmed but that's counter-balanced by the increased prosperity of everyone else. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/28/boris-johnson-backs-telegraph-campaign-cut-eu-red-tape-choking/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/28/boris-johnson-ba... He was part of a government that promised a "bonfire of red tape", and that included building standards. https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/cameron-claims-victory-in-bonfire-of-the-building-regulations/8658068.article https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/cameron-claims-victory-i... > In a speech to the Federation of Small Business Cameron said 100 standards and building regulations were facing the bonfire – a move which he claimed would save around £60 million a year for housebuilders – or £500 for each new home built. > His announcement effectively re-iterates the government’s commitment to trim down building regulations as part of its Housing Standards Review. Grenfell Tower showed us why those regulations exist and what happens when you get rid of them - people die. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/15/grenfell-tower-red-tape-safety-deregulation https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/15/grenfe... From the Wikipedia article: "The national government commissioned an independent review of building regulations and fire safety, which published a report in May 2018" That report is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/independent-review-of-building-regulations-and-fire-safety-final-report https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/independent-revie... There was previous criticism of UK fire regulation, that's mentioned in the Wikipedia article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire#Criticism_of_fire_safety_regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire#Criticism_...
  - bubblewrap 7y ago
    But did he specifically axe regulations of fire safety? Or did he mean to abandon all ALL regulations? Just because some regulations may be good, does not mean all regulations are good.
bubblewrap 7y ago
Not sure what you mean. But it seems society is making that compromise all the time. For example road accidents seem like a better comparison? Many people get pleasure and benefits out of being able to drive, but a couple thousand people die because of it every year, including many children.

by DanBC 7y ago

chippy 7y ago

could you explain your comment as I did a search on this page and saw no mention of this

DanBC 7y ago
Boris Johnson is claiming that red tape hinders business and that we need less of it, and sure some people are going to be harmed but that's counter-balanced by the increased prosperity of everyone else. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/28/boris-johnson-backs-telegraph-campaign-cut-eu-red-tape-choking/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/28/boris-johnson-ba... He was part of a government that promised a "bonfire of red tape", and that included building standards. https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/cameron-claims-victory-in-bonfire-of-the-building-regulations/8658068.article https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/cameron-claims-victory-i... > In a speech to the Federation of Small Business Cameron said 100 standards and building regulations were facing the bonfire – a move which he claimed would save around £60 million a year for housebuilders – or £500 for each new home built. > His announcement effectively re-iterates the government’s commitment to trim down building regulations as part of its Housing Standards Review. Grenfell Tower showed us why those regulations exist and what happens when you get rid of them - people die. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/15/grenfell-tower-red-tape-safety-deregulation https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/15/grenfe... From the Wikipedia article: "The national government commissioned an independent review of building regulations and fire safety, which published a report in May 2018" That report is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/independent-review-of-building-regulations-and-fire-safety-final-report https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/independent-revie... There was previous criticism of UK fire regulation, that's mentioned in the Wikipedia article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire#Criticism_of_fire_safety_regulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire#Criticism_...
- bubblewrap 7y ago
  But did he specifically axe regulations of fire safety? Or did he mean to abandon all ALL regulations? Just because some regulations may be good, does not mean all regulations are good.

bubblewrap 7y ago

Not sure what you mean. But it seems society is making that compromise all the time. For example road accidents seem like a better comparison? Many people get pleasure and benefits out of being able to drive, but a couple thousand people die because of it every year, including many children.