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We have twice as many female ancestors as male. That's not a myth. It's an uncomfortable truth.
by alexryan 7y ago
We have twice as many female ancestors as male. That's not a myth. It's an uncomfortable truth.
- s_kilk 7y agoCitation? Also, why an "uncomfortable" truth? Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I suspect there's an axe being ground here.
- alexryan 7y agoNew York Times The Missing Men in Your Family Tree, 2007 You might be right. My partner got herself pregnant by another man and tried to convince me that I was the father. If the woman who you thought loved you did this to you, it might bother you slightly.
- saagarjha 7y agoI feel like there might be a significant difference in emotional response for false paternity ten generations up your family tree versus instances that affect you personally.
- alexryan 7y agoFair. My understanding is that in each generation HALF of the males have their genes exterminated. In "12 Rules for Life", Jordan Peterson says that human female choosiness is the reason why humans evolved faster than chimpanzees, so I guess this is for the best. I suspect this is why rates of male suicide are so much higher than female suicide. Why bother to live if you are genetically unfit? Women know this. I suspect this is why the rates of postpartum depression in women is nearly twice as high when the baby is a boy. They know there is a high probability that their baby is destined for a life of suffering.
- s_kilk 7y agoPeterson is a hack, and 12 rules is trash. Don't get taken in by that crap.
- alexryan 7y agoYeah. Personally, I think Peterson is in the business of offering false hope to the condemned. A useful service to the elites. But the evidence is the evidence. Suppressing the truth is not a good long term strategy in the age of the internet.
- 0815test 7y agoDo you really think "false hope" is more common than "false hopelessness"? (Related: https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/09/all-debates-are-bravery-debates/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/09/all-debates-are-braver... )
- alexryan 7y agoHave you experienced having a woman you loved and who genuinely seemed to be in love with you get pregnant by another man and try to convince you that you that you are father? There is nothing "false" about the hopelessness that you feel when this happens to you.
- mrguyorama 7y agoDo you not realize your reality might be a bit warped by this life altering event?
- alexryan 7y ago~50% of males have their genes exterminated each generation. Their experience of reality is probably very different than yours. That does not mean that their reality is not real. If you are not part of this group, congrats on winning the genetic lottery. Their reality may indeed seem very “warped” to you. But the probability is high that either your sons or your grandsons will experience this warped reality as well.
- pcrh 7y agoSince men can father more children than women can bear, the numerical ratio of fathers to mothers is skewed in favor of mothers. Another way of looking at it is that people are more likely to share a father than a mother.
- erik_seaberg 7y agoAll men combined have the same number of children as all women combined. A man can have more than a woman, but only if some other man has fewer. E.g., dies young.