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These were the ones I got: https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-PartyPlug-Plugs-Music-Environments/dp/B00REB9VTO/ https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-PartyPlug-Plugs-Music-E

by graeme 7y ago

These were the ones I got: https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-PartyPlug-Plugs-Music-Environments/dp/B00REB9VTO/ https://www.amazon.com/Alpine-PartyPlug-Plugs-Music-Environm... Iirc I selected them based on: 1. Reviews were decent 2. At least one person on hn had mentioned them 3. The carrying case is ultra compact One plastic thing on the case broke, but it still functions. I like that they're clear, a bit harder to see. For planes though I use the generic orange ones. I keep some in my travel bag at all times. The keychain ones are for unplanned situations I can't avoid. Though your 70 db link has got me wondering even about subways and trains. Is a two hour journey at ~85 db worth worrying about? I had assumed it wasn't based on osha. I'd use over ear headphones but it isn't clear to me how much they dampen, apart from the nrr rated industrial ones.

ddingus 7y ago
It is cumulative. Each time, no real worry. Over 20 years it just happens. I noticed one day when listening to some signals. Levels, at some frequencies were different. Again, minor league. But, due to a few decades driving window down, it all did add up to a little something. Overall in my life, apart from that window business, I have taken good care. The highs are rolling off some now. Normal. Discrimination is still really good. But, I can now tell left ear from right. Thanks for the tip. I will have to get a set. So, you have to decide what is worth what. At my peak, I could hear well through 22khz. Today, I still hear very well, but range has dropped. 17khz or so. I do not care much. Discrimination, sensitivity related to things under 12khz is where all the good stuff is. Mostly normal aging. I have no worries. I can still often tell you who made a vintage watch by the sounds it makes. Music is still great! With a ton of work, I could have preserved more sensitivity, and a bit of range. But I have lived well too. You must evaluate these things and act or not, now. Hopefully, you have no worries aging up too.

by graeme 7y ago

ddingus 7y ago

It is cumulative. Each time, no real worry. Over 20 years it just happens. I noticed one day when listening to some signals. Levels, at some frequencies were different. Again, minor league. But, due to a few decades driving window down, it all did add up to a little something. Overall in my life, apart from that window business, I have taken good care. The highs are rolling off some now. Normal. Discrimination is still really good. But, I can now tell left ear from right. Thanks for the tip. I will have to get a set. So, you have to decide what is worth what. At my peak, I could hear well through 22khz. Today, I still hear very well, but range has dropped. 17khz or so. I do not care much. Discrimination, sensitivity related to things under 12khz is where all the good stuff is. Mostly normal aging. I have no worries. I can still often tell you who made a vintage watch by the sounds it makes. Music is still great! With a ton of work, I could have preserved more sensitivity, and a bit of range. But I have lived well too. You must evaluate these things and act or not, now. Hopefully, you have no worries aging up too.