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We shouldn't penalize addiction. But we absolutely should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit.

m0zg 7y ago
>> should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit You just sighed a death warrant to HN, and 95% of all corporations that make a profit.
- bdamm 7y ago
  Agreed; Facebook, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Lays, Twitter, CNN, Fox, Disney, and Purdue are all examples of companies that are taking advantage of people's reward path in a basically addictive way. Maybe 95% in terms of aggregate profit.
  - m0zg 7y ago
    Why not Google? There are a lot of kids (including my son) addicted to YouTube. Why not Amazon? There are a lot people addicted to buying stuff they don't need.
    - krtkush 7y ago
      Add reddit to it too, IMO.
    - bdamm 7y ago
      The list is definitely far from comprehensive. Thanks for adding. I think we could add many more especially if you include companies that boost their profits by taking advantage of people by presenting them with a dilemma of immediacy, such as Home Depot and their overpriced key rings, or movie theaters that disallow outside food and make all their money on popcorn and soda.
  - EvanWinget 7y ago
    This is definitely true for a lot of the major consumer facing software companies. "Sean Parker, the 38-year-old founding president of Facebook, recently admitted that the social network was founded not to unite us, but to distract us. “The thought process was: ‘How do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible?’” he said at an event in Philadelphia in November. To achieve this goal, Facebook’s architects exploited a “vulnerability in human psychology”, explained Parker, who resigned from the company in 2005. Whenever someone likes or comments on a post or photograph, he said, “we… give you a little dopamine hit”. Facebook is an empire of empires, then, built upon a molecule." Source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/04/has-dopamine-got-us-hooked-on-tech-facebook-apps-addiction https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/04/has-dopam...
- tejtm 7y ago
  so be it. No non corporal entity is entitled to exploit any corporal entity. If they exist at all they should serve all. Profit is a share of the increased wealth created, not stealing what is because you are invulnerable, soulless and can.
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stunt 7y ago
> we absolutely should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit Often we end up doing things to make sure they have more profit. I wouldn't be surprised if this e-cigarettes ban is coming from cigarette manufacturers lobbying for it.
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m0zg 7y ago

>> should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit You just sighed a death warrant to HN, and 95% of all corporations that make a profit.

bdamm 7y ago
Agreed; Facebook, Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Lays, Twitter, CNN, Fox, Disney, and Purdue are all examples of companies that are taking advantage of people's reward path in a basically addictive way. Maybe 95% in terms of aggregate profit.
- m0zg 7y ago
  Why not Google? There are a lot of kids (including my son) addicted to YouTube. Why not Amazon? There are a lot people addicted to buying stuff they don't need.
  - krtkush 7y ago
    Add reddit to it too, IMO.
  - bdamm 7y ago
    The list is definitely far from comprehensive. Thanks for adding. I think we could add many more especially if you include companies that boost their profits by taking advantage of people by presenting them with a dilemma of immediacy, such as Home Depot and their overpriced key rings, or movie theaters that disallow outside food and make all their money on popcorn and soda.
- EvanWinget 7y ago
  This is definitely true for a lot of the major consumer facing software companies. "Sean Parker, the 38-year-old founding president of Facebook, recently admitted that the social network was founded not to unite us, but to distract us. “The thought process was: ‘How do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible?’” he said at an event in Philadelphia in November. To achieve this goal, Facebook’s architects exploited a “vulnerability in human psychology”, explained Parker, who resigned from the company in 2005. Whenever someone likes or comments on a post or photograph, he said, “we… give you a little dopamine hit”. Facebook is an empire of empires, then, built upon a molecule." Source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/04/has-dopamine-got-us-hooked-on-tech-facebook-apps-addiction https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/04/has-dopam...
tejtm 7y ago
so be it. No non corporal entity is entitled to exploit any corporal entity. If they exist at all they should serve all. Profit is a share of the increased wealth created, not stealing what is because you are invulnerable, soulless and can.

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stunt 7y ago

> we absolutely should penalize corporations who take advantage of addicts for a profit Often we end up doing things to make sure they have more profit. I wouldn't be surprised if this e-cigarettes ban is coming from cigarette manufacturers lobbying for it.

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