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politics allowed here?

by sittingnut 7y ago

Apocryphon 7y ago
Sounds like he hacked the societal expectations of what constitutes a speech via social engineering
- hprotagonist 7y ago
  twice, the exact same way.
  - microcolonel 7y ago
    Do you run programs only once? If you have a fabulous spicy pickle recipe and it rescues people from depression and cures alzheimer's, do you chance experimenting with the preparation? ;- )
  - mc32 7y ago
    Plus who knows how many more the witness wasn’t privy to.
    - Apocryphon 7y ago
      And the speeches that are to come!
dang 7y ago
Interesting stories with political overlap are ok (see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20political%20overlap https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...). I don't think one even needs to apply that criterion here, though. It's a story about a politician, but not exactly politics.
asabjorn 7y ago
This does seem like a contradiction of rules.
- dang 7y ago
  There's no rule against politics on HN as such (and never has been: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869). The rule is against garden-variety politics—the kind with no intellectually interesting aspect: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Many good HN submissions have some political overlap. That's inevitable and fine as long as people don't use the site for political battle, which takes discussions out of the range this site exists for (the curiosity range). I've written about this a fair bit: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20political%20overlap https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
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  - bryanrasmussen 7y ago
    The no political battle rule though seems to make all direct U.S politics off limits however.
    - dang 7y ago
      It's a question of what the community is capable of. If a thread can substantively discuss some interesting topic that overlaps with "direct U.S. politics", that's fine. If it degenerates into political battle and flamewar, it's off topic. Preserving the container takes precedence.

politics allowed here?

Apocryphon 7y ago

Sounds like he hacked the societal expectations of what constitutes a speech via social engineering

hprotagonist 7y ago
twice, the exact same way.
- microcolonel 7y ago
  Do you run programs only once? If you have a fabulous spicy pickle recipe and it rescues people from depression and cures alzheimer's, do you chance experimenting with the preparation? ;- )
- mc32 7y ago
  Plus who knows how many more the witness wasn’t privy to.
  - Apocryphon 7y ago
    And the speeches that are to come!

dang 7y ago

Interesting stories with political overlap are ok (see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20political%20overlap https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...). I don't think one even needs to apply that criterion here, though. It's a story about a politician, but not exactly politics.

asabjorn 7y ago

This does seem like a contradiction of rules.

dang 7y ago
There's no rule against politics on HN as such (and never has been: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17014869). The rule is against garden-variety politics—the kind with no intellectually interesting aspect: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Many good HN submissions have some political overlap. That's inevitable and fine as long as people don't use the site for political battle, which takes discussions out of the range this site exists for (the curiosity range). I've written about this a fair bit: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=by:dang%20political%20overlap https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
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- bryanrasmussen 7y ago
  The no political battle rule though seems to make all direct U.S politics off limits however.
  - dang 7y ago
    It's a question of what the community is capable of. If a thread can substantively discuss some interesting topic that overlaps with "direct U.S. politics", that's fine. If it degenerates into political battle and flamewar, it's off topic. Preserving the container takes precedence.