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Not necessarily the case. I'm a visibly transgender woman because of puberty and religious abuse when young preventing access to hormone blockers. I would say w

by sysbin 7y ago

Not necessarily the case. I'm a visibly transgender woman because of puberty and religious abuse when young preventing access to hormone blockers. I would say what encompasses me is to blame for suicidal ideation. The behaviour of people I have no control over and how they constantly invalidate me; possibly threaten or harm me. Furthermore, the cost of actually fixing what makes me visibly transgender is like putting a downpayment on a house and people refuse to consider it medical treatment. Reality can just hate a person and that's really what's to blame. I likely wouldn't be talked away from the cliff.

nashashmi 7y ago
Another definition of pressure? > behaviour of people and how they constantly invalidate me... Reality can just hate a person. ... That you can't escape. > like putting a downpayment on a house and people refuse to consider it medical treatment.
- sysbin 7y ago
  What's your definition of pressure? I'm under the assumption you attach it to anything. Also I'm offended.
  - nashashmi 7y ago
    So you faced social pressure to be a certain person. And were exiled because you did not fit. And then your method of escaping that by using medicine was not good enough. So you face this endless pain and don't have an escape.
    - sysbin 7y ago
      I don’t agree with how you phrased it. It’s more that reality just despises some people if simplified to the root. Since none of us has any real control when it comes to anything.
      - nashashmi 7y ago
        You are clinically depressed, a persistent form of depression. That's like a force telling you to stay depressed. Because that has become your comfort zone. As another commenter pointed out, this is a problem that lies between your ears. You can blame everyone from childhood to current trends for the situation you are in now. But for as long as you do not conform, you will feel like you don't belong. And so you will seek an escape, but there are none. So you will be tired. You won't have the energy to stay your own person, so you will be suicidal. You are not trans as you like to believe. You are a human who wants to constantly fight your environment and not conform. Calling your self trans is just one way of doing that. So stop fighting. Learn to live. Learn to love yourself. Just as you are. Without changing. Then learn to love those around you. Then the things around you. Then the ideas around you. Hate nothing. That is evil for you. From the book 7 habits, proactive people love first and then feel love. No medicine or surgery can change that. Finally, read Feeling Good by David Burns. I did. :)
        sysbin 7y ago
        I'm getting assisted suicide in less than a year in Switzerland. You seem to be a very shallow person with no depth to write what you have. Seems like you're an evil force I've encountered by fate and similar as other forces i've experienced but I prefer that label for what's best described by the word faith. People live through whatever is destined and some are just worse off than others because we live in a society under the illusion of free will by religion.
        nashashmi 7y ago
        We are free to believe what we want to believe. We are free to do as we wish. We have that mercy from our Lord. What happens to us is not of our wish. It is of his. How we react is in OUR hands. Don't kill yourself. Just because you believe the world should be treating you a certain way but it is not, is not a good reason to die. It is selfish. You took up resources in this world. In a first world nonetheless. You took away someone else's opportunity to have what you have. You need to give back. And giving up does not do that. We live for others. We live for community. We live to bring others happiness. We live to protect others from the problems we faced. We live to rescue others from what we were rescued from. From the beginning of your comments, you get offended. You don't like things being phrased a certain way. You don't like what you hear. True judgement is not embedded in your emotions. It is when you are free of it. But you are not. So it remains that your judgement is compromised. You called me an evil force. When I only help you find reasons to live. You commit to suicide. And then instill in others reason to die. What is evil here? A long time ago I made a comment here on HN. You should read it. Free yourself from ego, arrogance, entangled thoughts, and so on. Read: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14439600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14439600
jstarfish 7y ago
> Reality can just hate a person and that's really what's to blame. No, that's externalizing. Reality doesn't hate you. The nature of any dysphoria leads one to deny reality as it is though, and presume a lot about it that is objectively false-- your brain lies to you about the way you understand reality and convinces you that in order to correct it you so can understand it, you need to seek solutions that are unaffordable, harmful or otherwise impossible/out-of-reach. Because humanity is generally retarded we celebrate or demonize things we don't understand instead of actually working to understand them. What gets lost in the zeitgeist of promoting "LGBTx uber alles" and tarring the skeptics as *phobes is that expensive surgery, a lifetime of HRT and a premature cancer death--getting everything you think you need to feel whole--won't necessarily steer you away from suicide either, because the fundamental problem has more to do with what's between your ears than what's between your legs. Post-ops are still something like 20x more likely to commit suicide than the general population; hardly counts as a success story when it comes to harm reduction or enacting effective medical prognoses. I hope you find happiness through GRS or otherwise. I also hope it comes sooner rather than later so you don't suffer any longer than you have. But if you ever do find yourself on the edge of that cliff, at least consider for a second that you're so dissatisfied because you've been trying to address the wrong problem this whole time.
- sysbin 7y ago
  What a load of rubbish by someone that apparently is not able to understand what encompasses an object is the real source for where blame is fitting. Reality can make one human suffer compared to another that doesn't suffer because of displacement rooted in nature and where the result was not equal experiences; when it came to evolution. Nobody has any control in their life at the fundamental level and because we're all just input/output by the forces exerted upon us. I've been damaged by a reality that was shit for transgender kids when I was young and now reality has been changing for future kids that are lgbtq. You're labouring under delusions with the nonsense you wrote.

by sysbin 7y ago

nashashmi 7y ago

Another definition of pressure? > behaviour of people and how they constantly invalidate me... Reality can just hate a person. ... That you can't escape. > like putting a downpayment on a house and people refuse to consider it medical treatment.

sysbin 7y ago
What's your definition of pressure? I'm under the assumption you attach it to anything. Also I'm offended.
- nashashmi 7y ago
  So you faced social pressure to be a certain person. And were exiled because you did not fit. And then your method of escaping that by using medicine was not good enough. So you face this endless pain and don't have an escape.
  - sysbin 7y ago
    I don’t agree with how you phrased it. It’s more that reality just despises some people if simplified to the root. Since none of us has any real control when it comes to anything.
    - nashashmi 7y ago
      You are clinically depressed, a persistent form of depression. That's like a force telling you to stay depressed. Because that has become your comfort zone. As another commenter pointed out, this is a problem that lies between your ears. You can blame everyone from childhood to current trends for the situation you are in now. But for as long as you do not conform, you will feel like you don't belong. And so you will seek an escape, but there are none. So you will be tired. You won't have the energy to stay your own person, so you will be suicidal. You are not trans as you like to believe. You are a human who wants to constantly fight your environment and not conform. Calling your self trans is just one way of doing that. So stop fighting. Learn to live. Learn to love yourself. Just as you are. Without changing. Then learn to love those around you. Then the things around you. Then the ideas around you. Hate nothing. That is evil for you. From the book 7 habits, proactive people love first and then feel love. No medicine or surgery can change that. Finally, read Feeling Good by David Burns. I did. :)
      - sysbin 7y ago
        I'm getting assisted suicide in less than a year in Switzerland. You seem to be a very shallow person with no depth to write what you have. Seems like you're an evil force I've encountered by fate and similar as other forces i've experienced but I prefer that label for what's best described by the word faith. People live through whatever is destined and some are just worse off than others because we live in a society under the illusion of free will by religion.
        nashashmi 7y ago
        We are free to believe what we want to believe. We are free to do as we wish. We have that mercy from our Lord. What happens to us is not of our wish. It is of his. How we react is in OUR hands. Don't kill yourself. Just because you believe the world should be treating you a certain way but it is not, is not a good reason to die. It is selfish. You took up resources in this world. In a first world nonetheless. You took away someone else's opportunity to have what you have. You need to give back. And giving up does not do that. We live for others. We live for community. We live to bring others happiness. We live to protect others from the problems we faced. We live to rescue others from what we were rescued from. From the beginning of your comments, you get offended. You don't like things being phrased a certain way. You don't like what you hear. True judgement is not embedded in your emotions. It is when you are free of it. But you are not. So it remains that your judgement is compromised. You called me an evil force. When I only help you find reasons to live. You commit to suicide. And then instill in others reason to die. What is evil here? A long time ago I made a comment here on HN. You should read it. Free yourself from ego, arrogance, entangled thoughts, and so on. Read: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14439600 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14439600

jstarfish 7y ago

> Reality can just hate a person and that's really what's to blame. No, that's externalizing. Reality doesn't hate you. The nature of any dysphoria leads one to deny reality as it is though, and presume a lot about it that is objectively false-- your brain lies to you about the way you understand reality and convinces you that in order to correct it you so can understand it, you need to seek solutions that are unaffordable, harmful or otherwise impossible/out-of-reach. Because humanity is generally retarded we celebrate or demonize things we don't understand instead of actually working to understand them. What gets lost in the zeitgeist of promoting "LGBTx uber alles" and tarring the skeptics as *phobes is that expensive surgery, a lifetime of HRT and a premature cancer death--getting everything you think you need to feel whole--won't necessarily steer you away from suicide either, because the fundamental problem has more to do with what's between your ears than what's between your legs. Post-ops are still something like 20x more likely to commit suicide than the general population; hardly counts as a success story when it comes to harm reduction or enacting effective medical prognoses. I hope you find happiness through GRS or otherwise. I also hope it comes sooner rather than later so you don't suffer any longer than you have. But if you ever do find yourself on the edge of that cliff, at least consider for a second that you're so dissatisfied because you've been trying to address the wrong problem this whole time.

sysbin 7y ago
What a load of rubbish by someone that apparently is not able to understand what encompasses an object is the real source for where blame is fitting. Reality can make one human suffer compared to another that doesn't suffer because of displacement rooted in nature and where the result was not equal experiences; when it came to evolution. Nobody has any control in their life at the fundamental level and because we're all just input/output by the forces exerted upon us. I've been damaged by a reality that was shit for transgender kids when I was young and now reality has been changing for future kids that are lgbtq. You're labouring under delusions with the nonsense you wrote.