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> the adoption rate of smoking among younger folks has spiked since flavoured e-cigs were introduced Are you calling vaping "smoking"? Because that would be di

by qes 7y ago

> the adoption rate of smoking among younger folks has spiked since flavoured e-cigs were introduced Are you calling vaping "smoking"? Because that would be disingenuous. Also you may as well just say "since e-cigs were introduced" since there was never a time that they weren't flavored.

munk-a 7y ago
I am calling it smoking, "vaping" is a euphemism that just recently entered the language in an effort to rebrand the action of smoking because being "a smoker" now has a negative connotation. "Smoking" has never been a literal description of that action - the literal description is "inhaling tobacco" which is still occurring. The fact that using e-cigarettes is viewed as a more healthy way for smokers to continue their habit sort of puts the nail in the coffin in terms of word meanings.
- driverdan 7y ago
  What are you talking about? Smoking is inhaling the smoke of a burned product. Vaping is not. It's not comparable. The bad part of smoking tobacco is not the nicotine, it's all of the terrible health effects of inhaling smoke. Other than addiction nicotine has very few negative health effects.
  - munk-a 7y ago
    There are health effects of e-cigarettes aren't fully known but there are well known health risks associated with tobacco aside from the ash (which still can be present in mis-tuned vapes but is greatly reduced), see this other comment[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20280258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20280258
- function_seven 7y ago
  There is no tobacco in the e-cigs. The inhalants are liquid droplets that are about 10 times larger than the smoke particles they replace. They do far less damage to the lungs, and deliver a tiny fraction of the carcinogens that smoking does. Vaping isn't a euphemism. It's really a different thing altogether. In fact, I euphemize it back to "smoking" because I hate the term "vaping". It sounds so lame.

by qes 7y ago

munk-a 7y ago

I am calling it smoking, "vaping" is a euphemism that just recently entered the language in an effort to rebrand the action of smoking because being "a smoker" now has a negative connotation. "Smoking" has never been a literal description of that action - the literal description is "inhaling tobacco" which is still occurring. The fact that using e-cigarettes is viewed as a more healthy way for smokers to continue their habit sort of puts the nail in the coffin in terms of word meanings.

driverdan 7y ago
What are you talking about? Smoking is inhaling the smoke of a burned product. Vaping is not. It's not comparable. The bad part of smoking tobacco is not the nicotine, it's all of the terrible health effects of inhaling smoke. Other than addiction nicotine has very few negative health effects.
- munk-a 7y ago
  There are health effects of e-cigarettes aren't fully known but there are well known health risks associated with tobacco aside from the ash (which still can be present in mis-tuned vapes but is greatly reduced), see this other comment[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20280258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20280258
function_seven 7y ago
There is no tobacco in the e-cigs. The inhalants are liquid droplets that are about 10 times larger than the smoke particles they replace. They do far less damage to the lungs, and deliver a tiny fraction of the carcinogens that smoking does. Vaping isn't a euphemism. It's really a different thing altogether. In fact, I euphemize it back to "smoking" because I hate the term "vaping". It sounds so lame.