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I feel that this statement sets the perfect as the enemy of the good. If your alternative is to take this or die due to not being able to afford the proper medi

I feel that this statement sets the perfect as the enemy of the good. If your alternative is to take this or die due to not being able to afford the proper medicine you need, what is your choice? What solutions do you put forward for fixing the pricing problems?

la_barba 7y ago
I'm not proposing a policy here. I'm giving my reasons why something is A Very Bad Idea. >If your alternative is to take this or die due to not being able to afford the proper medicine you need, what is your choice? I don't view it as "an alternative". Just like drinking battery acid is not "an alternative" to treating esophageal cancer because it happens to kill off cancerous cells. >What solutions do you put forward for fixing the pricing problems? I don't know of a market based solution that would do that. But you can have the government provide a single-payer system, and negotiate the prices. That's one sensible option IMHO.
- yellowapple 7y ago
  As "bad" of an idea as it is, it's still better than "give up and die".
  - la_barba 7y ago
    It isn't, really. That the entire point. Just repeating that it is without actually making a _science_ based argument is plain silly. If you inject yourself with non-sterile material, there is an extremely high chance you will now die from two things (or more), instead of just one. Depending on the organism, an untrained person attempting to grow bacteria outside of a lab might create an even bigger problem, for e.g. if they improperly dispose of it, the organism (or other metabolites/proteins/etc) could leech into the soil and cause further damage, or worse.. contaminate the water supply. Heck the city won't even let you install a sprinkler without making sure you're not sending the water back into the supply. And you guys are thinking about growing bacteria at home. I don't think I can make my case any clearer. This is a terrible idea. But OK, you do you...

la_barba 7y ago

I'm not proposing a policy here. I'm giving my reasons why something is A Very Bad Idea. >If your alternative is to take this or die due to not being able to afford the proper medicine you need, what is your choice? I don't view it as "an alternative". Just like drinking battery acid is not "an alternative" to treating esophageal cancer because it happens to kill off cancerous cells. >What solutions do you put forward for fixing the pricing problems? I don't know of a market based solution that would do that. But you can have the government provide a single-payer system, and negotiate the prices. That's one sensible option IMHO.

yellowapple 7y ago
As "bad" of an idea as it is, it's still better than "give up and die".
- la_barba 7y ago
  It isn't, really. That the entire point. Just repeating that it is without actually making a _science_ based argument is plain silly. If you inject yourself with non-sterile material, there is an extremely high chance you will now die from two things (or more), instead of just one. Depending on the organism, an untrained person attempting to grow bacteria outside of a lab might create an even bigger problem, for e.g. if they improperly dispose of it, the organism (or other metabolites/proteins/etc) could leech into the soil and cause further damage, or worse.. contaminate the water supply. Heck the city won't even let you install a sprinkler without making sure you're not sending the water back into the supply. And you guys are thinking about growing bacteria at home. I don't think I can make my case any clearer. This is a terrible idea. But OK, you do you...