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> If your goal is to graduate from a top school But why is that always the goal that counselors push? The data shows that future income is most closely correla
by sdinsn 7y ago
> If your goal is to graduate from a top school
But why is that always the goal that counselors push? The data shows that future income is most closely correlated to major, not school choice.
- bradlys 7y agoMaybe they're pushing people to get the best school for their major. I think going to Stanford for CS will open more doors than going to Oregon State. There is a significant networking aspect to these top schools as well. I see it very clearly with my friends who went to CalTech and Stanford. It's probably not a coincidence that many (most?) of my peers in the bay area are people who graduated from top schools and/or programs.
- metildaa 7y agoOSU has quite a bit to offer that can jumpstart a CS career, like the OSU Open Source Lab: http://osuosl.org http://osuosl.org Meanwhile, not really sure I think of Stanford as a CS school, unlike MIT & similar.
- akhilcacharya 7y agoStanford CS is tied for #1 with Berkeley CMU and MIT
- metildaa 7y agoBerkely (BSD), MIT (of MIT license fame) & CMU (Sphinx) have a history of notable software that has enabled computing for decades, most HN users can name software developed by either institution. Stanford doesn't have that cache, despite what US News & World might say. US News & World rankings tend to be fairly subjective, look at their top 15 cities. Edit: CS School Rankings for those interested: https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-sch...
- hellocs1 7y agoAre you seriously saying Stanford doesn't have the same cache as Berkeley, MIT, or CMU in CS because you couldn't name something invented from Stanford? How about number of Turing laureates? Stanford has the most for alumni + faculty, and comes second if you only count alumni (to Berkeley), and comes second if you just count long-term faculty (to MIT), and comes first for short-term faculty.[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turing_Award_laureates_by_university_affiliation#Top_15_universities_worldwide_since_1966 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turing_Award_laureates...
- nostrademons 7y agoI mean, you could look at Google, Yahoo, SnapChat, VMWare, Sun, and Cisco as "interesting software invented at Stanford". Not to mention TAOCP and TeX. Only difference is that Stanford alums tend to get rich off their inventions because they don't bother to share the source code (usually; Knuth is an exception) while Berkeley & MIT have more of a history of public-domain contributions.
- jacobsenscott 7y ago"Top tier CS" school is pure marketing. Data structures and algorithms don't change based on geography or the amount of money you pay a school.
- tuesdayrain 7y agoThe quality of professors, lectures, and general atmosphere definitely do.
- rayiner 7y ago> I think going to Stanford for CS will open more doors than going to Oregon State. This concept stops being applicable the minute you get out of the HYPS tier of colleges. If you're cut out to go to HYPS and want to work in finance or top-tier consulting, then you should go. I understand the situation is similar these days with FANG companies. Once you're outside that tiny range of schools, save your money and go to the best in-state school you can get into.
- bradlys 7y agoYou don't have to be in finance either. The people I'm mentioning are all in software. Turns out - some of these graduating classes from these prestigious colleges end up running a lot of the bay area. It's not a diverse educational background.
- akhilcacharya 7y agoI think this is an uncomfortable truth for many people. People don’t like to admit that their performance at the time they got admitted to college is a reflection of their status and future ability but it unfortunately is.