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Video has never been immutable. Video has been able to be edited long before YouTube. Same happened in traditional media where an inaccurate slide shown on lunc

Video has never been immutable. Video has been able to be edited long before YouTube. Same happened in traditional media where an inaccurate slide shown on lunchtime news would be corrected on the evening news. You want a more immutable source, archive the video and link to that. Same reason people archive other websites when wanting to link to something as “proof”. Because we know that the web server is not write once.

ergothus 7y ago
> Because we know that the web server is not write once. You know that. People don't. I dont particularly care if YouTube allows people to edit videos, but on anything with comments, allowing someone to know it was edited seems like good information management, and in this case, helps inform people not in tech that it is editable. The more obvious the indicator that it was edited, the more people will understand that it is an option.
reificator 7y ago
> Video has never been immutable. Video has been able to be edited long before YouTube. I think they're talking about the actual content hosted at a specific url, not just video editing in general.
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  Even that isn't immutable. e.g. the video of the first SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch was modified after the livestream while still claiming that it was a livestream from the original date
  - Fellshard 7y ago
    The /expectation/ of viewers and sharers of the content is that it is immutable. I think the argument is that the /expectation/ will need to shift unless proactive steps are taken to make certain guarantees about the nature of shared content. One compromise, for example, would be to force edited videos to be a new resource, instead of replacing the original.
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robbrown451 7y ago
Video on YouTube. Not video in general, of course. Sure, YouTube can do what they want, but if they do, it destroys something that is valuable about YouTube, which is that you can trust that the ratings and comments are about the video you are watching.
_nalply 7y ago
It's not the same. If I watch a video I know it might been have edited or deep-faked before it was uploaded. However it's somewhat surprising for me that it still can be edited after the upload. Good to know now.

ergothus 7y ago

> Because we know that the web server is not write once. You know that. People don't. I dont particularly care if YouTube allows people to edit videos, but on anything with comments, allowing someone to know it was edited seems like good information management, and in this case, helps inform people not in tech that it is editable. The more obvious the indicator that it was edited, the more people will understand that it is an option.

reificator 7y ago

> Video has never been immutable. Video has been able to be edited long before YouTube. I think they're talking about the actual content hosted at a specific url, not just video editing in general.

Rebelgecko 7y ago
Even that isn't immutable. e.g. the video of the first SpaceX Falcon Heavy launch was modified after the livestream while still claiming that it was a livestream from the original date
- Fellshard 7y ago
  The /expectation/ of viewers and sharers of the content is that it is immutable. I think the argument is that the /expectation/ will need to shift unless proactive steps are taken to make certain guarantees about the nature of shared content. One compromise, for example, would be to force edited videos to be a new resource, instead of replacing the original.
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robbrown451 7y ago

Video on YouTube. Not video in general, of course. Sure, YouTube can do what they want, but if they do, it destroys something that is valuable about YouTube, which is that you can trust that the ratings and comments are about the video you are watching.

_nalply 7y ago

It's not the same. If I watch a video I know it might been have edited or deep-faked before it was uploaded. However it's somewhat surprising for me that it still can be edited after the upload. Good to know now.