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That's an admirable expression of morals, but everyone with a calculator figure out that the 1% don't have enough money to pay for a welfare state. The plain t

That's an admirable expression of morals, but everyone with a calculator figure out that the 1% don't have enough money to pay for a welfare state. The plain truth is, if you want a welfare state, the middle class has to pay for it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/democrats-use-nordic-nations-as-models-of-socialism-they-actually-involve-a-lot-of-capitalism/2019/06/24/b6d9bbdc-945c-11e9-b58a-a6a9afaa0e3e_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/demo... I was really glad to find the Washington Post publish this. Perhaps it will wake up some people to the questionable promises that certain Democrats are espousing currently. (The wording of this comment was edited to cause less offense)

gridlockd 7y ago
Downvoting the truth doesn't change it, sorry!
- komali2 7y ago
  I think you're getting downvoted for using a term like "virtue signal" to describe someone who devotes themselves full-time to philanthropy, and then diverging into a political flame-bait comment about "democrat scam."
  - gridlockd 7y ago
    Oh right, I forgot. One must not use opinionated speech and everything must be properly sourced in order to write a "proper" HN comment. My bad! I have adjusted the wording.
komali2 7y ago
Can you clarify why you believe this is a "virtue signal?" You're the second person in this thread to do so. My understanding of "virtue signal" means promoting "virtue" over "action." And yet: > Two decades ago I turned full-time to philanthropy and threw myself into supporting public education, scientific and medical research, and visual and performing arts, believing it was my responsibility to give back some of what had so generously been given to me. In the article he's saying this isn't enough. So, why use the term "virtue signal?" Are you arguing that he's doing nothing about the issue but writing a blog post?
- gridlockd 7y ago
  > My understanding of "virtue signal" means promoting "virtue" over "action." That's a misunderstanding. (edit) "Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values" That's the definition on Wikipedia, which I agree with. (edit 2) I don't think of it in terms of "right" and "wrong".
  - komali2 7y ago
    So, what does "virtue signal" mean to you, and why should we care that you're describing someone with it? I.e., why is it "bad?" I'm working off the definition I found on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling > In recent years, the term has been more commonly used within groups to criticize those who are seen to value the expression of virtue over action.
  - komali2 7y ago
    Replying again, as I believe your reply to me is taking the form of the edit to this post? > "Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values" What's wrong with this?
- r00fus 7y ago
  Can we add virtue signaling signaling to the lexicon? A keyword (along with a host of others like SJW, etc) to say "ignore the topic and the messenger, it's too lefty to discuss".

gridlockd 7y ago

Downvoting the truth doesn't change it, sorry!

komali2 7y ago
I think you're getting downvoted for using a term like "virtue signal" to describe someone who devotes themselves full-time to philanthropy, and then diverging into a political flame-bait comment about "democrat scam."
- gridlockd 7y ago
  Oh right, I forgot. One must not use opinionated speech and everything must be properly sourced in order to write a "proper" HN comment. My bad! I have adjusted the wording.

komali2 7y ago

Can you clarify why you believe this is a "virtue signal?" You're the second person in this thread to do so. My understanding of "virtue signal" means promoting "virtue" over "action." And yet: > Two decades ago I turned full-time to philanthropy and threw myself into supporting public education, scientific and medical research, and visual and performing arts, believing it was my responsibility to give back some of what had so generously been given to me. In the article he's saying this isn't enough. So, why use the term "virtue signal?" Are you arguing that he's doing nothing about the issue but writing a blog post?

gridlockd 7y ago
> My understanding of "virtue signal" means promoting "virtue" over "action." That's a misunderstanding. (edit) "Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values" That's the definition on Wikipedia, which I agree with. (edit 2) I don't think of it in terms of "right" and "wrong".
- komali2 7y ago
  So, what does "virtue signal" mean to you, and why should we care that you're describing someone with it? I.e., why is it "bad?" I'm working off the definition I found on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling > In recent years, the term has been more commonly used within groups to criticize those who are seen to value the expression of virtue over action.
- komali2 7y ago
  Replying again, as I believe your reply to me is taking the form of the edit to this post? > "Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values" What's wrong with this?
r00fus 7y ago
Can we add virtue signaling signaling to the lexicon? A keyword (along with a host of others like SJW, etc) to say "ignore the topic and the messenger, it's too lefty to discuss".