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Cloudflare's bet is essentially that they can control so much of the internet infrastructure that they can behave however they like and we all simply have to de
by dogecoinbase 7y ago
Cloudflare's bet is essentially that they can control so much of the internet infrastructure that they can behave however they like and we all simply have to deal with it.
- owenmarshall 7y ago> behave however they like and we all simply have to deal with it So basically what Verizon did by looking at BCP194 and saying “nah, too much bother”??
- KirinDave 7y agoNot really. You don't have to be a massive player to screw things up with BGP.
- owenmarshall 7y agoNo doubt. But it’s 2019 and I can’t muster up much sympathy for a tier 1 who can’t get inbound filters and a responsive NOC implemented correctly - things which were table stakes in 2009.
- gwright 7y ago2009? You are being generous. I'm pretty sure when I was managing BGP announcements for my small ISP in 1999 route filtering was a thing.
- mattrp 7y agoExactly. All these comments about how rude cloudflare is forget this style of public shaming of AS’s that can’t perform basic hygiene on their own network has been the norm rather than the exception for over twenty years. And further, all the surprise that cloudflare was quick to report - here’s the deal: bgp doesn’t lie. The second something is wrong, everyone knows who did it. There’s zero mystery. It’s not like some grand caper that takes months of investigations. Operators basically have one rule - don’t leak bad routes to everyone else. That’s pretty much the only rule that’s a constant. When you break it your karma goes to zero, everyone dumps on you but life goes on.
- notacoward 7y agoYou don't need to be a massive player to initiate the screwup, but you kind of need a massive player like Verizon to amplify it for you. That's why the onus on them should be greater.