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You should post this on reddit too; it'd get more upvotes. In all seriousness though, this isn't a helpful comment. The comment you're replying to makes it abu

You should post this on reddit too; it'd get more upvotes. In all seriousness though, this isn't a helpful comment. The comment you're replying to makes it abundantly clear that Project Veritas should be taken with a yuge grain of salt. An explanation of your own position is a much better discussion that mocking the position with which you disagree.

CobrastanJorji 7y ago
That's a fair criticism, thanks. That said, I don't think "taken with a grain of salt" takes it nearly far enough. Project Veritas is not an unreliable news source. It is a propaganda agency led by criminals. I don't know of a single completely true news story ever produced by them. Beginning an argument with the antecedent "If Project Veritas is telling the truth about this" brings us into the realm of fun and fancy. If someone said "If unicorns are real and produce large quantities of greenhouse gases, then man man may not be responsible for climate change," it'd be a reasonable logical statement, but it's still not useful in a serious discussion about anything.
- chaosite 7y ago
  "Project Veritas" is James O'Keefe's thing. It's infamous for trying to sting the Washington Post with false rape allegations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe#Failed_attempt_to_sting_The_Washington_Post_(2017) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe#Failed_attempt...
- colpabar 7y ago
  No problemo; I appreciate the response. But I have to say that it's a pretty yuge red flag for me when someone makes claims as bold as "It is a propaganda agency led by criminals" and doesn't provide a single link to back it up.
  - yourbandsucks 7y ago
    I mean, you can Google them yourself, too. They've been front page news multiple times for doctoring videos, lying, etc. The acorn "sting" and WaPo incident are probably their greatest hits.
  - CobrastanJorji 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe Project Veritas is the name of the organization run by this guy: James O'Keefe. His modus operadi is to set up some sort of meeting with a liberal target under false pretenses, secretly record video, and then edit the video as much as possible to make them look bad. He made a name for himself doing this to ACORN back in 2009 (which successfully destroyed ACORN but also led to O'Keefe later paying the poor defamed ACORN worker $100,000). When I say "criminals," I mean he and his employees pled guilty to disguising themselves as telephone workers and sneaking into the office of a U.S. Senator. https://web.archive.org/web/20100531174024/http://neworleans.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/no052610b.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20100531174024/http://neworleans... Examples of his recent work include having his employee try to convince the Washington Post that Roy Moore raped her, for the purpose of discrediting the Washington Post's other stories about Roy Moore.
    - colpabar 7y ago
      Now this is a comment!!

CobrastanJorji 7y ago

That's a fair criticism, thanks. That said, I don't think "taken with a grain of salt" takes it nearly far enough. Project Veritas is not an unreliable news source. It is a propaganda agency led by criminals. I don't know of a single completely true news story ever produced by them. Beginning an argument with the antecedent "If Project Veritas is telling the truth about this" brings us into the realm of fun and fancy. If someone said "If unicorns are real and produce large quantities of greenhouse gases, then man man may not be responsible for climate change," it'd be a reasonable logical statement, but it's still not useful in a serious discussion about anything.

chaosite 7y ago
"Project Veritas" is James O'Keefe's thing. It's infamous for trying to sting the Washington Post with false rape allegations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe#Failed_attempt_to_sting_The_Washington_Post_(2017) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe#Failed_attempt...
colpabar 7y ago
No problemo; I appreciate the response. But I have to say that it's a pretty yuge red flag for me when someone makes claims as bold as "It is a propaganda agency led by criminals" and doesn't provide a single link to back it up.
- yourbandsucks 7y ago
  I mean, you can Google them yourself, too. They've been front page news multiple times for doctoring videos, lying, etc. The acorn "sting" and WaPo incident are probably their greatest hits.
- CobrastanJorji 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe Project Veritas is the name of the organization run by this guy: James O'Keefe. His modus operadi is to set up some sort of meeting with a liberal target under false pretenses, secretly record video, and then edit the video as much as possible to make them look bad. He made a name for himself doing this to ACORN back in 2009 (which successfully destroyed ACORN but also led to O'Keefe later paying the poor defamed ACORN worker $100,000). When I say "criminals," I mean he and his employees pled guilty to disguising themselves as telephone workers and sneaking into the office of a U.S. Senator. https://web.archive.org/web/20100531174024/http://neworleans.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/no052610b.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20100531174024/http://neworleans... Examples of his recent work include having his employee try to convince the Washington Post that Roy Moore raped her, for the purpose of discrediting the Washington Post's other stories about Roy Moore.
  - colpabar 7y ago
    Now this is a comment!!