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Adobe Posts Its First Billion-Dollar Quarter

31 points by rjett 16y ago

jason_tko 16y ago
Looks like all the people who grew up using copied versions of the Adobe suite are finally buying it.
- jallmann 16y ago
  I'm one of them. I started toying with programming when I was ~14 using ActionScript and my pirated copy of Flash 4. Ah, those were the times.
rm-rf 16y ago
And with that kind of money, they can finally afford to implement secure software development, code review, fuzzing, & vulnerability testing. We'll all be better off when they do.
- thwarted 16y ago
  Or maybe the 64 bit version of flash can get out of extreme beta.
  - olalonde 16y ago
    Or maybe they can make Flash work properly on Linux?
    - ars 16y ago
      There's hope - at least if you use nvidia. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=adobe_linux_vdpau&num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=adobe... According to that, hardware acceleration seems to work well in the current beta.
      - rbritton 16y ago
        I would just like a decent installer for at least one of their products to start with.
        ars 16y ago
        If you're on debian this grep -q 'www.debian-multimediaa.org' /etc/apt/sources.list || (echo 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free' >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update) apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla apt-get install acroread works well. :)
cookiecaper 16y ago
Too bad, hope Adobe dies forever soon. All of their stuff has become bloated and horrible (Flash the worst among them), and unless there is a serious internal restructuring, I have little hope that decency will return.
- itg 16y ago
  I really hope flash goes away too, but I don't see software such as Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, etc going away anytime soon.
  - cookiecaper 16y ago
    The nice thing about desktop software is that it doesn't vanish with its authors. If Adobe crumbles or restructures, Photoshop et al will be there just the same as they were, and people can continue to use them. Meanwhile, if people thought they could get a serious hold where Photoshop once stood (because Photoshop became unmaintained, which I doubt would happen, even if Adobe dies; Photoshop is a huge asset and I'm sure the ashes of Adobe could get a pretty good price based on that alone), the gap would be filled relatively quickly.
    - rbritton 16y ago
      Nearly all current Adobe products require activation. The only one I'm familiar with that doesn't is Acrobat.
      - cookiecaper 16y ago
        While this is annoying, it's not impossible to get around...
latch 16y ago
Where does it make all this money on? The article just mentions that they make Photoshop, Acrobat and Flash..and the Adobe press release doesn't provide any additional information.
- windsurfer 16y ago
  I work on Adobe LiveCycle, which is an enterprisey do-everything suite. The creative suite software is still the biggest seller at Adobe, though.
- guelo 16y ago
  CS, PhotoShop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premier, Flash, Dreamweaver, Scene 7, Macromedia Studio, After Effects, Go Live: 542.1 mill Acrobat, LiveCycle, ColdFusion, Flex: 274.1 mill Omniture: 98.4 mill PostScript, FrameMaker, PageMaker, Macromedia Contribute, Macromedia Captivate, Macromedia FreeHand: 47.3 mill PDF & Flash Platform Revenue: 46.1 mill
  - latch 16y ago
    Damn, none of the big stuff (the creative products) seem like particularly easy markets to compete. Acrobat might represent the best opportunity, but that thing is ingrained.
  - initself 16y ago
    I look at this list and I am thrilled that I don't have to use a single one of these. I'm not even friends with anyone that does, except a couple of photographers. I'd love to know how much of the 46.1 million of the "PDF & Flash Platform Revenue" and the 274.1 million of the "Acrobat, LiveCycle, ColdFusion, Flex" is purely PDF related. How many people are buying Adobe Acrobat just to edit PDFs, documents that should be source code but aren't? I just hate it when digital things become analog (or virtually analog, like PDF) and I doubly hate it that tools get built for editing the now analog digital document. Like OCR for Faxes, UGH!
    - biot 16y ago
Garbage 16y ago
Are they thanking (loving) "Apple" in their release anywhere?
lukestevens 16y ago
Maybe they can now start on some of these: http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/ http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/
iwwr 16y ago
Any news on a possible Flash export-to-html5 feature?
GiraffeNecktie 16y ago
Not a very informative article. They left out tons of information, such as that the growth is coming from their business products like LiveCycle (the article doesn't even recognize that side of their business). Also Adobe is spinning the Creative Suite story as "sales for the latest release are higher than they were at this point in time for the previous release" but my understanding from the sketchy articles out there, is that, overall, Creative Suite revenues are down a bit.
jamesk2 16y ago
CS4 was widely panned and coupled with the poor economy, many companies skipped it. Adobe took a loss this quarter last year. The article doesn't state it but many CS3 owners have upgraded to CS5 because of the improving economy, some new features and not wanting to be too far behind software revisions.

31 points by rjett 16y ago

jason_tko 16y ago

Looks like all the people who grew up using copied versions of the Adobe suite are finally buying it.

jallmann 16y ago
I'm one of them. I started toying with programming when I was ~14 using ActionScript and my pirated copy of Flash 4. Ah, those were the times.

rm-rf 16y ago

And with that kind of money, they can finally afford to implement secure software development, code review, fuzzing, & vulnerability testing. We'll all be better off when they do.

thwarted 16y ago
Or maybe the 64 bit version of flash can get out of extreme beta.
- olalonde 16y ago
  Or maybe they can make Flash work properly on Linux?
  - ars 16y ago
    There's hope - at least if you use nvidia. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=adobe_linux_vdpau&num=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=adobe... According to that, hardware acceleration seems to work well in the current beta.
    - rbritton 16y ago
      I would just like a decent installer for at least one of their products to start with.
      - ars 16y ago
        If you're on debian this grep -q 'www.debian-multimediaa.org' /etc/apt/sources.list || (echo 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free' >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update) apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla apt-get install acroread works well. :)

cookiecaper 16y ago

Too bad, hope Adobe dies forever soon. All of their stuff has become bloated and horrible (Flash the worst among them), and unless there is a serious internal restructuring, I have little hope that decency will return.

itg 16y ago
I really hope flash goes away too, but I don't see software such as Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, etc going away anytime soon.
- cookiecaper 16y ago
  The nice thing about desktop software is that it doesn't vanish with its authors. If Adobe crumbles or restructures, Photoshop et al will be there just the same as they were, and people can continue to use them. Meanwhile, if people thought they could get a serious hold where Photoshop once stood (because Photoshop became unmaintained, which I doubt would happen, even if Adobe dies; Photoshop is a huge asset and I'm sure the ashes of Adobe could get a pretty good price based on that alone), the gap would be filled relatively quickly.
  - rbritton 16y ago
    Nearly all current Adobe products require activation. The only one I'm familiar with that doesn't is Acrobat.
    - cookiecaper 16y ago
      While this is annoying, it's not impossible to get around...

latch 16y ago

Where does it make all this money on? The article just mentions that they make Photoshop, Acrobat and Flash..and the Adobe press release doesn't provide any additional information.

windsurfer 16y ago
I work on Adobe LiveCycle, which is an enterprisey do-everything suite. The creative suite software is still the biggest seller at Adobe, though.
guelo 16y ago
CS, PhotoShop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premier, Flash, Dreamweaver, Scene 7, Macromedia Studio, After Effects, Go Live: 542.1 mill Acrobat, LiveCycle, ColdFusion, Flex: 274.1 mill Omniture: 98.4 mill PostScript, FrameMaker, PageMaker, Macromedia Contribute, Macromedia Captivate, Macromedia FreeHand: 47.3 mill PDF & Flash Platform Revenue: 46.1 mill
- latch 16y ago
  Damn, none of the big stuff (the creative products) seem like particularly easy markets to compete. Acrobat might represent the best opportunity, but that thing is ingrained.
- initself 16y ago
  I look at this list and I am thrilled that I don't have to use a single one of these. I'm not even friends with anyone that does, except a couple of photographers. I'd love to know how much of the 46.1 million of the "PDF & Flash Platform Revenue" and the 274.1 million of the "Acrobat, LiveCycle, ColdFusion, Flex" is purely PDF related. How many people are buying Adobe Acrobat just to edit PDFs, documents that should be source code but aren't? I just hate it when digital things become analog (or virtually analog, like PDF) and I doubly hate it that tools get built for editing the now analog digital document. Like OCR for Faxes, UGH!
  - biot 16y ago

Garbage 16y ago

Are they thanking (loving) "Apple" in their release anywhere?

lukestevens 16y ago

Maybe they can now start on some of these: http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/ http://adobegripes.tumblr.com/

iwwr 16y ago

Any news on a possible Flash export-to-html5 feature?

GiraffeNecktie 16y ago

Not a very informative article. They left out tons of information, such as that the growth is coming from their business products like LiveCycle (the article doesn't even recognize that side of their business). Also Adobe is spinning the Creative Suite story as "sales for the latest release are higher than they were at this point in time for the previous release" but my understanding from the sketchy articles out there, is that, overall, Creative Suite revenues are down a bit.

jamesk2 16y ago

CS4 was widely panned and coupled with the poor economy, many companies skipped it. Adobe took a loss this quarter last year. The article doesn't state it but many CS3 owners have upgraded to CS5 because of the improving economy, some new features and not wanting to be too far behind software revisions.