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> I really feel sad for these sherpa that have to work as care givers for these unprepared losers from the west (most of them seem to be) that just want to impr

> I really feel sad for these sherpa that have to work as care givers for these unprepared losers from the west (most of them seem to be) that just want to impress their kin back home. Do you climb mountains? It's hard to explain the motivation if you don't do it yourself. Most people I know who have done big climbs are not trying to impress their kin. George Mallory answered the question why with "Because it's there." That's still about the best answer.

Copenjin 7y ago
That's not the kind of people I'm referring to, I was talking about unqualified "climbers"[1], like those cited by John Oliver or some of those of the Rob Hall expedition. [1]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147998/Mount-Everest-deaths-Shirya-Shah-Klorfines-words-dying-base-camp-save-me.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147998/Mount-Evere...
- hodgesrm 7y ago
  Unqualified or unlucky? It's hard to say from the article you cited; bad weather and crowding also seem to have been factors. 8000m peaks have high rates of fatalities under the best of conditions. But this is true of any large mountain range. Take the Alps for example. On one day in the summer of 1979 12 people died on climbs around Chamonix, which is a single valley. It was a beautiful day with ideal climbing conditions around much of Mt. Blanc. I remember it well, because I was in the valley watching helicopters bringing down bodies all afternoon. Most of the deaths were on the Tour Ronde. [1] The uppermost of 3 climbing parties fell on a steep couloir and took out two parties below them. Perhaps the first party was unqualified but the second and third parties? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_Ronde#Events_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_Ronde#Events_and_incident...
TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
There’s climbing mountains, and then there’s paying $50,000 to line up to climb past a bunch of bodies that were never recovered, presumably because people pay $50,000 to summit Everest, not to retrieve dead bodies. What kind of brain injury do you have to have to want to pay $50,000 to stand in line for that?
keypusher 7y ago
Everest is not mountain climbing anymore, hasn’t been for years. It’s a dangerous guided hike for a very expensive selfie. If you want a real challenge go to K2 or basically anywhere else. I have more respect for people that climb their local peak than those who summit Everest.

Copenjin 7y ago

That's not the kind of people I'm referring to, I was talking about unqualified "climbers"[1], like those cited by John Oliver or some of those of the Rob Hall expedition. [1]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147998/Mount-Everest-deaths-Shirya-Shah-Klorfines-words-dying-base-camp-save-me.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2147998/Mount-Evere...

hodgesrm 7y ago
Unqualified or unlucky? It's hard to say from the article you cited; bad weather and crowding also seem to have been factors. 8000m peaks have high rates of fatalities under the best of conditions. But this is true of any large mountain range. Take the Alps for example. On one day in the summer of 1979 12 people died on climbs around Chamonix, which is a single valley. It was a beautiful day with ideal climbing conditions around much of Mt. Blanc. I remember it well, because I was in the valley watching helicopters bringing down bodies all afternoon. Most of the deaths were on the Tour Ronde. [1] The uppermost of 3 climbing parties fell on a steep couloir and took out two parties below them. Perhaps the first party was unqualified but the second and third parties? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_Ronde#Events_and_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_Ronde#Events_and_incident...

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago

There’s climbing mountains, and then there’s paying $50,000 to line up to climb past a bunch of bodies that were never recovered, presumably because people pay $50,000 to summit Everest, not to retrieve dead bodies. What kind of brain injury do you have to have to want to pay $50,000 to stand in line for that?

keypusher 7y ago

Everest is not mountain climbing anymore, hasn’t been for years. It’s a dangerous guided hike for a very expensive selfie. If you want a real challenge go to K2 or basically anywhere else. I have more respect for people that climb their local peak than those who summit Everest.