4 ms·

My wife and I both have iPhones on KPN. No alert. We have an old Moto X 2013 that we use when we have to check our old German T-Mobile numbers for missed calls

My wife and I both have iPhones on KPN. No alert. We have an old Moto X 2013 that we use when we have to check our old German T-Mobile numbers for missed calls or SMSes. That phone did get an alert. Thrice. It is worrying that these alerts do not seem to work correctly, since it is supposed to replace the 'the air-raid alarm' (in 2021).

Phemist 7y ago
It's also bad that these messages are pretty annoying _and_ spammed to the point where people are turning the NL alert messages off. Last week too, there was a big fire in the region I'm from, and we received ~5 messages through the NL Alert system warning us about the fire and telling us to keep windows closed in the space of 20 minutes. Seems excessive to me and dangerous should the boy at one point cry about an actual wolf.
- ricardobeat 7y ago
  It’s pretty reasonable to let people know about what’s happening and how to get help if needed, and the inconvenience worth any life’s saved.
  - Phemist 7y ago
    Ofcourse, I am not advocating for turning the system off. But I would tread more cautiously with something like this if a) it is very easily turned off if perceived as of net negative value in a spur of the moment decision, but difficult to opt back in, b) the security of the system as a whole depends on at least a few people in any given group at any time of day receiving the messages, especially if these technical issues persist with random arrivals of message delivery and c) the scope of the system is expected to expand in the near future.
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      You have a very valid point. Systems like this should work flawlessly and should only be activated when it is really necessary otherwise by the time we need them they'll be switched off by people that get tired of being woken up. Case in point: smoke alarms that wake up half the neighborhood when their batteries need replacement.
- isoprophlex 7y ago
  If you mean the Pijnacker fire... during that, I got zero messages, my wife got one (we were both at home). I guess the delivery system is just totally fucked, and the spammyness wasn't deliberate
- jen729w 7y ago
  Is it anything like the American system, which overrides your phone’s volume settings? I was driving in the US last year in a pretty amazing thunderstorm and a hideous alarm went off in the car. I thought I’d crashed the thing. Pulling over and investigating, we discovered my phone ‘alerting’ me to the heavy rain. Err ... cheers. If it did that more than about twice a year I’d be turning it off for sure.

Phemist 7y ago

It's also bad that these messages are pretty annoying _and_ spammed to the point where people are turning the NL alert messages off. Last week too, there was a big fire in the region I'm from, and we received ~5 messages through the NL Alert system warning us about the fire and telling us to keep windows closed in the space of 20 minutes. Seems excessive to me and dangerous should the boy at one point cry about an actual wolf.

ricardobeat 7y ago
It’s pretty reasonable to let people know about what’s happening and how to get help if needed, and the inconvenience worth any life’s saved.
- Phemist 7y ago
  Ofcourse, I am not advocating for turning the system off. But I would tread more cautiously with something like this if a) it is very easily turned off if perceived as of net negative value in a spur of the moment decision, but difficult to opt back in, b) the security of the system as a whole depends on at least a few people in any given group at any time of day receiving the messages, especially if these technical issues persist with random arrivals of message delivery and c) the scope of the system is expected to expand in the near future.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    You have a very valid point. Systems like this should work flawlessly and should only be activated when it is really necessary otherwise by the time we need them they'll be switched off by people that get tired of being woken up. Case in point: smoke alarms that wake up half the neighborhood when their batteries need replacement.
isoprophlex 7y ago
If you mean the Pijnacker fire... during that, I got zero messages, my wife got one (we were both at home). I guess the delivery system is just totally fucked, and the spammyness wasn't deliberate
jen729w 7y ago
Is it anything like the American system, which overrides your phone’s volume settings? I was driving in the US last year in a pretty amazing thunderstorm and a hideous alarm went off in the car. I thought I’d crashed the thing. Pulling over and investigating, we discovered my phone ‘alerting’ me to the heavy rain. Err ... cheers. If it did that more than about twice a year I’d be turning it off for sure.