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In the UK in a victorian terrace, and our front room is perhaps on the small side at about 3x4m. I'd guess somewhere between that and 4x5m is about average. F

In the UK in a victorian terrace, and our front room is perhaps on the small side at about 3x4m. I'd guess somewhere between that and 4x5m is about average. For us 32inch still can feel imposing. And that size screen seems to be being phased out.

bin0 7y ago
Oh dear God that's tiny. How do you stand that? Genuinely curious; I feel like I'd end up claustrophobic.
- downtide 7y ago
  We do have another room, that's slightly larger but it's a bit bleak. And weirdly it's a more fussy room to furnish. The smaller size is better in the winter. The old brick terraces aren't that warm. In large houses people can gravitate to smaller rooms for that reason. Personally I'd like a large room that I could bring the furniture in from the sides. Lucky to even have a house to live in to be honest, so can't really grumble.
  - bin0 7y ago
    I looked up some pictures; would you say this is representative? https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/969757/41efc6817b/modern-european-living-room-3d-model-low-poly-max.jpg https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/969757/41efc6817b/modern-... If so, you're right; that's pretty small. Is it just a matter of acclimation? Also, can you clarify what you mean that you're lucky to have a house? I wasn't aware of a major homeless problem in Europe.
    - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
      I have to comment. That's huge! Way bigger than most UK Victorian 2 up, 2 down terraces. More like the size expected in an older 4 bedroom house if you ignore the extra space the photographer is clearly standing in. Have a random right move link of what I think as typical Victorian worker's terrace: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-62228127.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-62228... The door by the yellow chair is a tiny porch with front door beyond. No idea how it compares with OP's.
      - downtide 7y ago
        That's slightly smaller than ours probably all in all. But I've seen smaller, like the one up, one down back to backs in Leeds/Woodhouse and many modern flats apartments, are just broom cupboards - but then you look at down town Japan and this feels palacial.
    - downtide 7y ago
      That's larger than mine. Sizes are getting smaller. Can't comment for the rest of Europe but the UK has quite a bad homeless problem, it's very visible at the moment. Rents are prohibitively high, and getting onto the housing ladder is very difficult. Small houses - even semi-detached bungalows around our way are at least £300k (edit: oops missed a 0 originally!). The housing stock is shockingly bad in the UK, and very expensive.
    - DanBC 7y ago
      > I wasn't aware of a major homeless problem in Europe. Homes in the UK can be expensive, so there's a large rental market. On top of that many people are vulnerably housed - living in emergency temporary accommodation (which may be for many months) or on friend's sofas. The introduction of the benefit "Universal Credit" has increased homelessness and people who are vulnerably housed. In the UK a landlord can apply for eviction if the tenant hasn't paid for two months. (This is for shorthold tenancy agreements where tenants have most rights - other tenancies have less protection.) There is a minimum wait of 5 weeks before Universal Credit claimants get paid, which pushes some people very close to this limit. The bizarre sanctions regime tips many people over that limit. Detailed information can be found here:https://www.crisis.org.uk/media/238700/homelessness_monitor_england_2018.pdf https://www.crisis.org.uk/media/238700/homelessness_monitor_...
- benj111 7y ago
  I'm sure most of humanity for most of history have made do with smaller rooms than that. How do you cope in a car?
  - bin0 7y ago
    Sounds like a car might just be bigger... But joking aside, I'm surrounded by glass on all sides in a car. That makes a great deal of difference. I probably wouldn't feel confined in a room that size if I had an entire wall of glass.
    - downtide 7y ago
      In a UK terrace, even given a large bay window, your view will likely be squandered by a large work van, as the terraces seldom have off-street parking.

bin0 7y ago

Oh dear God that's tiny. How do you stand that? Genuinely curious; I feel like I'd end up claustrophobic.

downtide 7y ago
We do have another room, that's slightly larger but it's a bit bleak. And weirdly it's a more fussy room to furnish. The smaller size is better in the winter. The old brick terraces aren't that warm. In large houses people can gravitate to smaller rooms for that reason. Personally I'd like a large room that I could bring the furniture in from the sides. Lucky to even have a house to live in to be honest, so can't really grumble.
- bin0 7y ago
  I looked up some pictures; would you say this is representative? https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/969757/41efc6817b/modern-european-living-room-3d-model-low-poly-max.jpg https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/969757/41efc6817b/modern-... If so, you're right; that's pretty small. Is it just a matter of acclimation? Also, can you clarify what you mean that you're lucky to have a house? I wasn't aware of a major homeless problem in Europe.
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    I have to comment. That's huge! Way bigger than most UK Victorian 2 up, 2 down terraces. More like the size expected in an older 4 bedroom house if you ignore the extra space the photographer is clearly standing in. Have a random right move link of what I think as typical Victorian worker's terrace: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-62228127.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-62228... The door by the yellow chair is a tiny porch with front door beyond. No idea how it compares with OP's.
    - downtide 7y ago
      That's slightly smaller than ours probably all in all. But I've seen smaller, like the one up, one down back to backs in Leeds/Woodhouse and many modern flats apartments, are just broom cupboards - but then you look at down town Japan and this feels palacial.
  - downtide 7y ago
    That's larger than mine. Sizes are getting smaller. Can't comment for the rest of Europe but the UK has quite a bad homeless problem, it's very visible at the moment. Rents are prohibitively high, and getting onto the housing ladder is very difficult. Small houses - even semi-detached bungalows around our way are at least £300k (edit: oops missed a 0 originally!). The housing stock is shockingly bad in the UK, and very expensive.
  - DanBC 7y ago
    > I wasn't aware of a major homeless problem in Europe. Homes in the UK can be expensive, so there's a large rental market. On top of that many people are vulnerably housed - living in emergency temporary accommodation (which may be for many months) or on friend's sofas. The introduction of the benefit "Universal Credit" has increased homelessness and people who are vulnerably housed. In the UK a landlord can apply for eviction if the tenant hasn't paid for two months. (This is for shorthold tenancy agreements where tenants have most rights - other tenancies have less protection.) There is a minimum wait of 5 weeks before Universal Credit claimants get paid, which pushes some people very close to this limit. The bizarre sanctions regime tips many people over that limit. Detailed information can be found here:https://www.crisis.org.uk/media/238700/homelessness_monitor_england_2018.pdf https://www.crisis.org.uk/media/238700/homelessness_monitor_...
benj111 7y ago
I'm sure most of humanity for most of history have made do with smaller rooms than that. How do you cope in a car?
- bin0 7y ago
  Sounds like a car might just be bigger... But joking aside, I'm surrounded by glass on all sides in a car. That makes a great deal of difference. I probably wouldn't feel confined in a room that size if I had an entire wall of glass.
  - downtide 7y ago
    In a UK terrace, even given a large bay window, your view will likely be squandered by a large work van, as the terraces seldom have off-street parking.