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I guess the real question is if people are willing to pay those higher taxes needed to cover this expense.

aaomidi 7y ago
We already pay a ton in taxes - let's see if he's ready to divert funding from other places. I think most people who also think they'll have kids would also be fine with a percentage point or two increase if it means there won't be any more loans.
- verttii 7y ago
  If you essentially aim to make all education free you'll have Nordic level taxes as a consequence.
  - neic 7y ago
    Not if you don't implement the rest of the Nordic model. Denmark used 13% of its combined government budget on education in 2017. 44% was used on welfare. Permille combined public budget of Denmark in 2017 (in Danish): https://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/bagtal/2017/2017-08-31-hvordan-bruger-det-offentlige-1000-kroner https://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/bagtal/2017/2017-08-31-hvord... Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dst.dk%2Fda%2FStatistik%2Fbagtal%2F2017%2F2017-08-31-hvordan-bruger-det-offentlige-1000-kroner https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3...
    - verttii 7y ago
      From what I understand the US tuition fees are significantly higher than what the Nordic countries spend per student at colleges. Making all US schools free would likely incur much larger costs than they do in the Nordic nations. Welfare is also a part of the free education promise in the Nordic countries as students are paid a monthly student allowance for studying. Imagine asking the tax payers to pay students' Ivy League education tuition fees. Tax raises would be unavoidable.
      - aaomidi 7y ago
        You don't need to make all schools free. Just public schools. If any school wants to be free, they need to implement the federal pay bands. Get rid of subsidized student loans as well. There's no reason we should be subsidizing predatory tuitions.

We already pay a ton in taxes - let's see if he's ready to divert funding from other places. I think most people who also think they'll have kids would also be fine with a percentage point or two increase if it means there won't be any more loans.

verttii 7y ago
If you essentially aim to make all education free you'll have Nordic level taxes as a consequence.
- neic 7y ago
  Not if you don't implement the rest of the Nordic model. Denmark used 13% of its combined government budget on education in 2017. 44% was used on welfare. Permille combined public budget of Denmark in 2017 (in Danish): https://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/bagtal/2017/2017-08-31-hvordan-bruger-det-offentlige-1000-kroner https://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/bagtal/2017/2017-08-31-hvord... Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dst.dk%2Fda%2FStatistik%2Fbagtal%2F2017%2F2017-08-31-hvordan-bruger-det-offentlige-1000-kroner https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3...
  - verttii 7y ago
    From what I understand the US tuition fees are significantly higher than what the Nordic countries spend per student at colleges. Making all US schools free would likely incur much larger costs than they do in the Nordic nations. Welfare is also a part of the free education promise in the Nordic countries as students are paid a monthly student allowance for studying. Imagine asking the tax payers to pay students' Ivy League education tuition fees. Tax raises would be unavoidable.
    - aaomidi 7y ago
      You don't need to make all schools free. Just public schools. If any school wants to be free, they need to implement the federal pay bands. Get rid of subsidized student loans as well. There's no reason we should be subsidizing predatory tuitions.