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Your issue lies with international extradition treaties it seems.

krferriter 7y ago
Extradition is usually done when someone commits a crime in one country, then flees to another country, and the first country requests that the second country send them back to the first country so they can be tried, right? Assange didn't break any laws inside the US. Can the US request extradition of anyone who breaks US law, even if they didn't break it while in the US? That seems pretty dangerous, and if I were a legislator in another country I would be very wary of ceding international prosecution power to the US. If Alice in Canada, a Canadian citizen and permanent resident, tells Bob in the US that thepiratebay lets them download copyrighted content, can the US request extradition of Alice from Canada and charge them with US crimes?
- swanny160 7y ago
  That is exactly my concern. Basically everyone in the world can be subject to US Law, set by a government they didn't vote for.
  - drenvuk 7y ago
    Extradition situations are typically run like so: 0. Country A has an extradition treaty with country B. 1. Break a law in Country A that is also a law in Country B but the effects of breaking that law happen in country B. 2. Courts in Country A decide whether the extradition treaty applies. 3. If it's a citizen that breaks the law there are a myriad of ways for Country A to say no. If It's a non-citizen then they get exported with a quickness, usually. Countries like Iceland usually say no to the US, see: Bobby Fischer. Other countries vary quite a lot. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but most countries only extradite their own citizens (sometimes or never) in the case where laws are broken in both countries and there's a ton of political pressure. It's not completely willy nilly though it's worse than I'd like.
  - RHSeeger 7y ago
    This seems to be true of many countries, though.
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- pjc50 7y ago
  Of course they can. The US has happily wielded international unaccountable power like this for years. See e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case
- cf498 7y ago
  Depends on the country. Germany for example doesnt allow the extradition of German citizens outside the EU unless its to the international court of justice. Before the European arrest warrant it was completely unconstitutional to extradite any German citizen to anywhere. You instead get put on trial in Germany.
jessaustin 7y ago
It's very unlikely that Assange will be extradited given this set of charges.

Extradition is usually done when someone commits a crime in one country, then flees to another country, and the first country requests that the second country send them back to the first country so they can be tried, right? Assange didn't break any laws inside the US. Can the US request extradition of anyone who breaks US law, even if they didn't break it while in the US? That seems pretty dangerous, and if I were a legislator in another country I would be very wary of ceding international prosecution power to the US. If Alice in Canada, a Canadian citizen and permanent resident, tells Bob in the US that thepiratebay lets them download copyrighted content, can the US request extradition of Alice from Canada and charge them with US crimes?

swanny160 7y ago
That is exactly my concern. Basically everyone in the world can be subject to US Law, set by a government they didn't vote for.
- drenvuk 7y ago
  Extradition situations are typically run like so: 0. Country A has an extradition treaty with country B. 1. Break a law in Country A that is also a law in Country B but the effects of breaking that law happen in country B. 2. Courts in Country A decide whether the extradition treaty applies. 3. If it's a citizen that breaks the law there are a myriad of ways for Country A to say no. If It's a non-citizen then they get exported with a quickness, usually. Countries like Iceland usually say no to the US, see: Bobby Fischer. Other countries vary quite a lot. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but most countries only extradite their own citizens (sometimes or never) in the case where laws are broken in both countries and there's a ton of political pressure. It's not completely willy nilly though it's worse than I'd like.
- RHSeeger 7y ago
  This seems to be true of many countries, though.
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pjc50 7y ago
Of course they can. The US has happily wielded international unaccountable power like this for years. See e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case
cf498 7y ago
Depends on the country. Germany for example doesnt allow the extradition of German citizens outside the EU unless its to the international court of justice. Before the European arrest warrant it was completely unconstitutional to extradite any German citizen to anywhere. You instead get put on trial in Germany.

jessaustin 7y ago

It's very unlikely that Assange will be extradited given this set of charges.