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Sorry to say, but that doesn't work. 1 hectare/Mwh, abstract over any issues. What happens when renewables actually achieve what they set out to do: what happen
by candiodari 7y ago
Sorry to say, but that doesn't work. 1 hectare/Mwh, abstract over any issues. What happens when renewables actually achieve what they set out to do: what happens when PV gets used for 50% of power ? What happens when it's at 80% ?
1 hectare/Mwh = 1e-5 km2/kwh
1e-5 km2/kwh * 450 billion kwh / 650000 km2 = 7 times the area of France
Obviously this is not practical. At 10% you'd have to destroy significant amounts of the remaining nature in France. God help Belgium and the Netherlands should they try this, so France is definitely not a worst case scenario. You'd have to get the power from Africa. Yes, the US could (just barely, and only with a much bigger electricity grid). Russia could. China is actually dicey (at 7% growth per year it won't stay dicey for long and dive into "not happening" soon). Not many others.
Also: at any scale solar PV will displace so much nature it will be worse for the planet than fossil fuels. At 1% ? No problem. But at 1%, fossil fuels aren't a problem either. At 1%, coal would be tolerable. At 100% ? Nuclear works. Alternatives ... uh ... None (I mean, there's fusion when it starts working)
Simcity was right.
https://www.worlddata.info/europe/france/energy-consumption.php https://www.worlddata.info/europe/france/energy-consumption....
https://www.google.com/search?q=france+area https://www.google.com/search?q=france+area
- fulafel 7y agoI mixed the units, obviously it's per MW and not MWh. Anyway, many people have done this calculation and the lamd required in an 100 % pv scenario seems pretty reasonable: https://landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127 https://landartgenerator.org/blagi/archives/127 https://energy-age.blogspot.com/2017/04/how-much-land-area-does-100-solar.html?m=1 https://energy-age.blogspot.com/2017/04/how-much-land-area-d... Doing my own napkin calc for 100% PV globally: using 2.5e6 MW world consumption, and 150 e6 sq km of land i get 60 km2 (6000 hectares) existing land for each MW consumed. So panels would take 1/6000 of land, or maybe 1/1000 if the 1 MW was for rated max power and we actually average 1/6 of that