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>On April 26, (2019!) CR learned that the Food and Drug Administration has known of high arsenic levels in Peñafiel bottled water, from Keurig Dr Pepper, since

>On April 26, (2019!) CR learned that the Food and Drug Administration has known of high arsenic levels in Peñafiel bottled water, from Keurig Dr Pepper, since at least 2013. Wow. Just Wow. This ties in so well with the other news article about how the US is turning into a developing country for some segment of the population.

swixm 7y ago
Isn't that segment of the population unlikely to consume bottled water?
- fwip 7y ago
  Poor places often have lower-quality tap water, both in flavor and in safety.
- ljf 7y ago
  I'll try to find the article, but there are parts of the USA where it is cheaper to drink bottled water and have a portapotty outside your house than it is to have mains water
devoply 7y ago
I have a theory that despite all the arrogance of the developed world, in terms of environmental issues such as lack of safe potable water they are maybe 100 years ahead of the developing world. It's just that they have better management and larger reserves, but in the end this buys you maybe another 100 years until all the pollution stacks up and the water becomes undrinkable without significant purification. I mean just look at Flint, Michigan.
ars 7y ago
You are leaving out a major section of the dispute. At the time of, and in the location of, the testing, the legal limit was higher. As such the water with legal and within limits. Since that time the legal limit has been lowered and consumer reports thinks they should go even lower, which makes the retrospective information look very bad. But your comments about developing country are quite misplaced because you left out all the relevant details.
- callmeal 7y ago
  >At the time of, and in the location of, the testing, the legal limit was higher. As such the water with legal and within limits. >Since that time the legal limit has been lowered and consumer reports thinks they should go even lower, which makes the retrospective information look very bad. It does not matter what CR thinks. What matters is that at this moment in time, the amount of arsenic in the bottled water exceeds the present (lowered) legal limit. Following your argument will be similar to telling the police officer that you should be allowed to speed because the legal speed limit on the road used to be higher. For those that haven't read the article: Federal limits are 10ppb (parts per billion), CR says they should be 3ppb because of medical research that shows drinking water at that level for extended periods is unhealthy. Levels detected were 17ppb. From TFA: >Beverage giant Keurig Dr Pepper provided CR in March with Peñafiel's bottled water quality report for 2018, which stated that the water had nondetectable amounts of arsenic. But the company said this week that it had conducted new testing, because of CR’s questions, and confirmed levels above the federal limit, at an average of 17 ppb.
  - ars 7y ago
    > What matters is that at this moment in time, the amount of arsenic in the bottled water exceeds the present (lowered) legal limit. You understand we are talking about a bottle of water in 2013? The OP was acting like the FDA is some 3rd world regulatory agency because they didn't have a time machine.

swixm 7y ago

Isn't that segment of the population unlikely to consume bottled water?

fwip 7y ago
Poor places often have lower-quality tap water, both in flavor and in safety.
ljf 7y ago
I'll try to find the article, but there are parts of the USA where it is cheaper to drink bottled water and have a portapotty outside your house than it is to have mains water

devoply 7y ago

I have a theory that despite all the arrogance of the developed world, in terms of environmental issues such as lack of safe potable water they are maybe 100 years ahead of the developing world. It's just that they have better management and larger reserves, but in the end this buys you maybe another 100 years until all the pollution stacks up and the water becomes undrinkable without significant purification. I mean just look at Flint, Michigan.

ars 7y ago

You are leaving out a major section of the dispute. At the time of, and in the location of, the testing, the legal limit was higher. As such the water with legal and within limits. Since that time the legal limit has been lowered and consumer reports thinks they should go even lower, which makes the retrospective information look very bad. But your comments about developing country are quite misplaced because you left out all the relevant details.

callmeal 7y ago
>At the time of, and in the location of, the testing, the legal limit was higher. As such the water with legal and within limits. >Since that time the legal limit has been lowered and consumer reports thinks they should go even lower, which makes the retrospective information look very bad. It does not matter what CR thinks. What matters is that at this moment in time, the amount of arsenic in the bottled water exceeds the present (lowered) legal limit. Following your argument will be similar to telling the police officer that you should be allowed to speed because the legal speed limit on the road used to be higher. For those that haven't read the article: Federal limits are 10ppb (parts per billion), CR says they should be 3ppb because of medical research that shows drinking water at that level for extended periods is unhealthy. Levels detected were 17ppb. From TFA: >Beverage giant Keurig Dr Pepper provided CR in March with Peñafiel's bottled water quality report for 2018, which stated that the water had nondetectable amounts of arsenic. But the company said this week that it had conducted new testing, because of CR’s questions, and confirmed levels above the federal limit, at an average of 17 ppb.
- ars 7y ago
  > What matters is that at this moment in time, the amount of arsenic in the bottled water exceeds the present (lowered) legal limit. You understand we are talking about a bottle of water in 2013? The OP was acting like the FDA is some 3rd world regulatory agency because they didn't have a time machine.