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> A law enforcement agency is procuring products and services with money from their budget, to carry out their work. You can stop right there and it's already

by jMyles 7y ago

> A law enforcement agency is procuring products and services with money from their budget, to carry out their work. You can stop right there and it's already objectionable to many of us. I don't want the federal government involved in "law enforcement," full stop. It's not their job. I especially don't want a domestic security agency spending $50 million dollars on “phone records, consumer and credit bureau data, healthcare provider content, utilities data, DMV records, World-Check listings, business data, data from social networks and chatrooms, and 'live access to more than 7 billion license plate detections'." So it doesn't matter that there is or isn't a practical different between a the use of a contractor and 'their own "open source intelligence" efforts"' - I don't want them doing either one.

dillonmckay 7y ago
At least if it was the federal agencies own efforts, they would not be able to sidestep due-process by ‘outsourcing’.
dsl 7y ago
> I don't want the federal government involved in "law enforcement," full stop. It's not their job. That is a broad cut if you just don't agree with ICE. There are tons of federal LEOs that do the jobs states and local governments can't. The US Marshall Service - Witness protection and relocation to other states. Rounding up fugitives from the federal judicial system. US Secret Service - which state should protect the US currency and our elected officials? BLM / National Ranger Service - who protects and enforces laws on lands specifically owned by the federal government? State Department, Diplomatic Security Service - what about visiting foreign dignitaries? United States Capitol Police - DC is a sovereign district. Should it be policed by a neighboring state? USPS Postal Police - investigates crimes committed using the mail service, which often crosses state borders. DoE/NRE Protective Units - Who should have ultimate control over nuclear warheads in transit? Texas? California?

by jMyles 7y ago

dillonmckay 7y ago

At least if it was the federal agencies own efforts, they would not be able to sidestep due-process by ‘outsourcing’.

dsl 7y ago

> I don't want the federal government involved in "law enforcement," full stop. It's not their job. That is a broad cut if you just don't agree with ICE. There are tons of federal LEOs that do the jobs states and local governments can't. The US Marshall Service - Witness protection and relocation to other states. Rounding up fugitives from the federal judicial system. US Secret Service - which state should protect the US currency and our elected officials? BLM / National Ranger Service - who protects and enforces laws on lands specifically owned by the federal government? State Department, Diplomatic Security Service - what about visiting foreign dignitaries? United States Capitol Police - DC is a sovereign district. Should it be policed by a neighboring state? USPS Postal Police - investigates crimes committed using the mail service, which often crosses state borders. DoE/NRE Protective Units - Who should have ultimate control over nuclear warheads in transit? Texas? California?