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But it is free though! With .Net Core being Cross platform, I've actually yet to run it on anything else than Linux in production environments! Hosting is the s

But it is free though! With .Net Core being Cross platform, I've actually yet to run it on anything else than Linux in production environments! Hosting is the same as any other technology, you just need a host to either run containers or the .Net artifacts directly. Lastly, I think it's unfair to throw SQL server into this comparison, as MySQL and PostgreSQL are perfectly supported with entity framework.

pryelluw 7y ago
It has only been open source for a relative short amount of time when compared with other technologies like Node, RoR, etc. .Net has historically cost money while providing somewhat similar features as open source competitors. Its why MS was forced into open sourcing it. They could not compete anymore.
- DarkStar851 7y ago
  .NET itself has always been "free" (as in beer), it's just VS they made people pay for. They've had a community edition since VS2012 at least, possibly earlier but that's as far back as my brain goes. The Community edition is pretty full-featured, it's only missing some TFS integration stuff, some test suite stuff and advanced profiling. I'd compare it to IntelliJ's free/pro model.
  - pseudalopex 7y ago
    They also made people pay for Windows.
  - dogma1138 7y ago
    Before CE it was Visual Studio Express which was also pretty much the same.
  - jetti 7y ago
    Community Edition has restrictions on use for organizations.
mattmanser 7y ago
Last time I tried MySQL with the EF the performance was terrible, the EF was outputting a load of nested tables that were fine with SQL Server, but absolutely abysmal performance with MySQL. This was a while ago. Have you used this personally, and do you have any scale? As there's 'supported' and there's good.
- iamnothere 7y ago
  EF is overkill for most things, like most heavyweight ORMs. Good for "line of business" apps, probably not great for most other applications. Dapper is much more performant.
potta_coffee 7y ago
Just because Microsoft has made some free stuff recently doesn't mean I'm going to switch stacks all of a sudden, when there are comparable frameworks I already know.

pryelluw 7y ago

It has only been open source for a relative short amount of time when compared with other technologies like Node, RoR, etc. .Net has historically cost money while providing somewhat similar features as open source competitors. Its why MS was forced into open sourcing it. They could not compete anymore.

DarkStar851 7y ago
.NET itself has always been "free" (as in beer), it's just VS they made people pay for. They've had a community edition since VS2012 at least, possibly earlier but that's as far back as my brain goes. The Community edition is pretty full-featured, it's only missing some TFS integration stuff, some test suite stuff and advanced profiling. I'd compare it to IntelliJ's free/pro model.
- pseudalopex 7y ago
  They also made people pay for Windows.
- dogma1138 7y ago
  Before CE it was Visual Studio Express which was also pretty much the same.
- jetti 7y ago
  Community Edition has restrictions on use for organizations.

mattmanser 7y ago

Last time I tried MySQL with the EF the performance was terrible, the EF was outputting a load of nested tables that were fine with SQL Server, but absolutely abysmal performance with MySQL. This was a while ago. Have you used this personally, and do you have any scale? As there's 'supported' and there's good.

iamnothere 7y ago
EF is overkill for most things, like most heavyweight ORMs. Good for "line of business" apps, probably not great for most other applications. Dapper is much more performant.

potta_coffee 7y ago

Just because Microsoft has made some free stuff recently doesn't mean I'm going to switch stacks all of a sudden, when there are comparable frameworks I already know.