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> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being

> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being embedded in the browser very useful.

nashashmi 7y ago
One type of incident I came across repeatedly was the browser would not recognize new password setup after password reset. Also found that 2fa systems were being confused for new password accounts. I agree password managers like last pass fill this void quite nicely. But are not serviced to run on mobile without payment.
Majestic121 7y ago
Not the parent, but for my own use case, I use password managers for things outside of the browser (office door code, steam, this kind of thing). It might be possible to enter those in the password manager of the browser, I never actually checked, but in any case that's why I use an out of browser password manager
- nkozyra 7y ago
  At least with chrome it's always there, you can access on mobile.
  - emayljames 7y ago
    At least on Firefox it's always there, you can access on mobile.
jjoonathan 7y ago
Having your passwords quickly available on every computer, every phone, every OS, and every browser is great. Browser-plugin + app password managers do all 4, while password managers provided by the OS or browser typically fail at one of those. They fail hard, too, by making it difficult to manually extract passwords when you need to. They also tend to lack features like password generation, note storage, etc. It's a completely different experience, really.
- kwhitefoot 7y ago
  > by making it difficult to manually extract passwords Not true for Firefox. Just go the privacy settings, forms, saved logins.
  - crumpets 7y ago
    That’s difficult for a common workflow. Going into “settings” for a password is as goofy as going into settings to look at your calendar.
    - Gracana 7y ago
      What common workflow requires accessing usernames and passwords manually?
      - iopq 7y ago
        When the URL of the login form changes, or Firefox doesn't see it, or you need to log in to a mobile app
  - nkozyra 7y ago
    Similarly easy for Chrome - Settings -> Passwords then once OS password entered you can see each.
- arianvanp 7y ago
  Euhm the firefox password manager syncs between devices and even has a standalone app https://lockwise.firefox.com/ https://lockwise.firefox.com/ Edit: Though Lockwise is relatively new, and currently opt in. And misses features like importing passwords bulk from other password managers
  - dontbenebby 7y ago
    It would be nice if they added a way to import Keepass DBs.
  - 7y ago
dtroode 7y ago
Recently I've restored my iPhone and lost all of my passwords in Safari. Now I use LastPass

> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being embedded in the browser very useful.

nashashmi 7y ago

One type of incident I came across repeatedly was the browser would not recognize new password setup after password reset. Also found that 2fa systems were being confused for new password accounts. I agree password managers like last pass fill this void quite nicely. But are not serviced to run on mobile without payment.

Majestic121 7y ago

Not the parent, but for my own use case, I use password managers for things outside of the browser (office door code, steam, this kind of thing). It might be possible to enter those in the password manager of the browser, I never actually checked, but in any case that's why I use an out of browser password manager

nkozyra 7y ago
At least with chrome it's always there, you can access on mobile.
- emayljames 7y ago
  At least on Firefox it's always there, you can access on mobile.

jjoonathan 7y ago

Having your passwords quickly available on every computer, every phone, every OS, and every browser is great. Browser-plugin + app password managers do all 4, while password managers provided by the OS or browser typically fail at one of those. They fail hard, too, by making it difficult to manually extract passwords when you need to. They also tend to lack features like password generation, note storage, etc. It's a completely different experience, really.

kwhitefoot 7y ago
> by making it difficult to manually extract passwords Not true for Firefox. Just go the privacy settings, forms, saved logins.
- crumpets 7y ago
  That’s difficult for a common workflow. Going into “settings” for a password is as goofy as going into settings to look at your calendar.
  - Gracana 7y ago
    What common workflow requires accessing usernames and passwords manually?
    - iopq 7y ago
      When the URL of the login form changes, or Firefox doesn't see it, or you need to log in to a mobile app
- nkozyra 7y ago
  Similarly easy for Chrome - Settings -> Passwords then once OS password entered you can see each.
arianvanp 7y ago
Euhm the firefox password manager syncs between devices and even has a standalone app https://lockwise.firefox.com/ https://lockwise.firefox.com/ Edit: Though Lockwise is relatively new, and currently opt in. And misses features like importing passwords bulk from other password managers
- dontbenebby 7y ago
  It would be nice if they added a way to import Keepass DBs.
- 7y ago

dtroode 7y ago

Recently I've restored my iPhone and lost all of my passwords in Safari. Now I use LastPass