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> This government can never repay all the people who suffered. But, this should not be an excuse for token apologies. I hope this country will never forget what

> This government can never repay all the people who suffered. But, this should not be an excuse for token apologies. I hope this country will never forget what happened, and do what it can to make sure that future generations will never forget. Every school system has succeeded in whitewashing the history. Almost no one in America now knows about the camps

krapp 7y ago
>Every school system has succeeded in whitewashing the history. Almost no one in America now knows about the camps That's not true. The internment of Japanese Americans in WW2 is taught about in school, and almost everyone knows about it, although not everyone necessarily cares, and some Americans will defend it (and even suggest that maybe doing it to Muslims would be a good idea.) The US doesn't really "whitewash" its history, nor practice mass indoctrination or nationalist brainwashing through its educational system, to the degree some believe. Learning about our history, and learning from our history, are two different things, though.
- fiblye 7y ago
  I think part of this depends on the school. The ones I attended would completely skip sections regarding the ~1,000,000 civilian deaths during the Philippine American War, the blunders in Korea and Vietnam (my classes basically said "they happened" and then the rest of the year was Civil War and WW2 movies), and there was absolutely zero discussion of American affairs in Central/South America and events leading to the Middle Eastern situation today. Schools and teachers aren't 100% standardized in America. Some have thorough history programs. Some absolutely do brush over a lot of bad parts in history, and my high school in the South was one of the types to say "The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery." Our biology class also had a huge disclaimer about evolution and how nobody had to, or really should, believe it, but they were just required to teach it. So I think when some people talk about how ridiculous/amazing the school system is, it's because that's just their experience. Schools are completely different depending on what state or even what part of town you live in.
- youdontknowtho 7y ago
  I disagree. There are narratives that become historical standards. These can be changed but there it requires ongoing effort to rectify the narrative against the latest research. Take the impeachment of Johnson as an example. The narrative has always been that Congress had gone out of control and tried to remove him out of some plot to gain more power. In actuality the Republicans were trying to save what was left of Reconstruction. The role of slavery as a cause of the American revolution is non-existent in anything but graduate level historical research. While it's not 1984 levels of indoctrination it's wrong to say that there aren't approved narratives that support the legitimacy of the State.
- inflatableDodo 7y ago
  >practice mass indoctrination or nationalist brainwashing through its educational system 'The important thing is to keep them pledging,' he explained to his cohorts. 'It doesn't matter whether they mean it or not. That's why they make little kids pledge allegiance even before they know what "pledge" and "allegiance" mean.' - Captain Black, in Catch 22
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eej71 7y ago
It was specifically discussed in many of my history classes. For those of us of a certain age, it's such common knowledge that it was readily incorporated as a plot point in the movie The Karate Kid.

krapp 7y ago

>Every school system has succeeded in whitewashing the history. Almost no one in America now knows about the camps That's not true. The internment of Japanese Americans in WW2 is taught about in school, and almost everyone knows about it, although not everyone necessarily cares, and some Americans will defend it (and even suggest that maybe doing it to Muslims would be a good idea.) The US doesn't really "whitewash" its history, nor practice mass indoctrination or nationalist brainwashing through its educational system, to the degree some believe. Learning about our history, and learning from our history, are two different things, though.

fiblye 7y ago
I think part of this depends on the school. The ones I attended would completely skip sections regarding the ~1,000,000 civilian deaths during the Philippine American War, the blunders in Korea and Vietnam (my classes basically said "they happened" and then the rest of the year was Civil War and WW2 movies), and there was absolutely zero discussion of American affairs in Central/South America and events leading to the Middle Eastern situation today. Schools and teachers aren't 100% standardized in America. Some have thorough history programs. Some absolutely do brush over a lot of bad parts in history, and my high school in the South was one of the types to say "The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery." Our biology class also had a huge disclaimer about evolution and how nobody had to, or really should, believe it, but they were just required to teach it. So I think when some people talk about how ridiculous/amazing the school system is, it's because that's just their experience. Schools are completely different depending on what state or even what part of town you live in.
youdontknowtho 7y ago
I disagree. There are narratives that become historical standards. These can be changed but there it requires ongoing effort to rectify the narrative against the latest research. Take the impeachment of Johnson as an example. The narrative has always been that Congress had gone out of control and tried to remove him out of some plot to gain more power. In actuality the Republicans were trying to save what was left of Reconstruction. The role of slavery as a cause of the American revolution is non-existent in anything but graduate level historical research. While it's not 1984 levels of indoctrination it's wrong to say that there aren't approved narratives that support the legitimacy of the State.
inflatableDodo 7y ago
>practice mass indoctrination or nationalist brainwashing through its educational system 'The important thing is to keep them pledging,' he explained to his cohorts. 'It doesn't matter whether they mean it or not. That's why they make little kids pledge allegiance even before they know what "pledge" and "allegiance" mean.' - Captain Black, in Catch 22

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eej71 7y ago

It was specifically discussed in many of my history classes. For those of us of a certain age, it's such common knowledge that it was readily incorporated as a plot point in the movie The Karate Kid.