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> in germany we do not have a long term storage solution that can safely withstand over 1000s of years for nuclear waste. A much simpler problem to solve as co

by zakk 7y ago

> in germany we do not have a long term storage solution that can safely withstand over 1000s of years for nuclear waste. A much simpler problem to solve as compared to other challenges due to climate change. You can build a storage big enough to contain all radioactive waste from current and future nuclear power plants probably in less than one year.

IAmEveryone 7y ago
And yet, not a single facility like that exists anywhere. In the US, Frace, Germany, and every other country with nuclear waste, attempts to built long-term storage have been stalled for decades.
- zakk 7y ago
  > And yet, not a single facility like that exists anywhere That's factually wrong. There are several deep geological repositories currently in operation.
  - merb 7y ago
    yeah in germany there is one, it will not withstand the time. the second one is still under construction. we had two others which also needed to be closed.
  - IAmEveryone 7y ago
    No, there are none. Not a single operational long-term storage facility for highly radioactive waste. The US plan is Yukka Mountain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_r...) proposed in 1987 and not yet open. Germany has a similar story with Gorleben (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorleben_salt_dome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorleben_salt_dome), which was proposed in 1973 and also isn't actually operational. The prototype, also in an old salt mine, nicely showed how difficult these projects actually are when brine flooded the storage area, corroded the containers, and mixed with the contained polonium, cesium, etc. Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_management https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_m... for the full overview. It's full of great sentences like: > Governments around the world are considering a range of waste management and disposal options, although there has been limited progress toward implementing long-term waste management solutions
    - zakk 7y ago
      > No, there are none. According to Wikipedia there are many currently in operation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_geological_repository#Repository_sites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_geological_repository#Rep... Is Wikipedia wrong?
      - IAmEveryone 7y ago
        Those are low-activity repositories mostly for waste from medical uses of nuclear technology, not the highly radioactive stuff from reactors.
        zakk 7y ago
        Again, you are factually wrong. The first active repository in the list I just linked to you is used for nuclear wastes from a nuclear power plant. I just checked the first, there will be more if you just take the time to get informed. Get your facts straight.

by zakk 7y ago

IAmEveryone 7y ago

And yet, not a single facility like that exists anywhere. In the US, Frace, Germany, and every other country with nuclear waste, attempts to built long-term storage have been stalled for decades.

zakk 7y ago
> And yet, not a single facility like that exists anywhere That's factually wrong. There are several deep geological repositories currently in operation.
- merb 7y ago
  yeah in germany there is one, it will not withstand the time. the second one is still under construction. we had two others which also needed to be closed.
- IAmEveryone 7y ago
  No, there are none. Not a single operational long-term storage facility for highly radioactive waste. The US plan is Yukka Mountain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_r...) proposed in 1987 and not yet open. Germany has a similar story with Gorleben (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorleben_salt_dome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorleben_salt_dome), which was proposed in 1973 and also isn't actually operational. The prototype, also in an old salt mine, nicely showed how difficult these projects actually are when brine flooded the storage area, corroded the containers, and mixed with the contained polonium, cesium, etc. Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_management https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_radioactive_waste_m... for the full overview. It's full of great sentences like: > Governments around the world are considering a range of waste management and disposal options, although there has been limited progress toward implementing long-term waste management solutions
  - zakk 7y ago
    > No, there are none. According to Wikipedia there are many currently in operation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_geological_repository#Repository_sites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_geological_repository#Rep... Is Wikipedia wrong?
    - IAmEveryone 7y ago
      Those are low-activity repositories mostly for waste from medical uses of nuclear technology, not the highly radioactive stuff from reactors.
      - zakk 7y ago
        Again, you are factually wrong. The first active repository in the list I just linked to you is used for nuclear wastes from a nuclear power plant. I just checked the first, there will be more if you just take the time to get informed. Get your facts straight.