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I wonder if the same applies to "Brave" ? (the browser built on top of chrome). I stopped using chrome for a while and have been using Brave.

mcbits 7y ago
Brave is built upon Electron, which is built upon Chromium (not Chrome). Electron and Chromium are both open source, unlike Chrome, although development is still concentrated in Google and GitHub/Microsoft. So I imagine it's fine unless something egregious happens with those projects and there isn't a strong enough community to maintain a clean fork.
- krn 7y ago
  > Brave is built upon Electron, which is built upon Chromium (not Chrome). Brave has been built directly upon Chromium since December 2018[1]. [1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/3328781/brave-browser-goes-full-chromium-by-adopting-google-ui.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3328781/brave-browser-...
  - mcbits 7y ago
    Oops! I actually thought about double-checking that before writing it, but I vaguely remember reading some list of reasons why they had initially gone with Electron instead of Chromium, so I assumed it was still true.
Fat_Thor 7y ago
Last I check, Brave disables all of Google related services by default except for Safe Browsing, which check for malicious downloads and sites. Even search suggestion is turned off by default.
firecall 7y ago
Brendan Eich is against LGBT rights. For this reason I will never use Brave. Here's the first link from a search https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9tsg2h/i_didnt_know_that_brendan_stepped_down_as_mozilla/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9tsg2h/i_didnt_...
- sendmarsh 7y ago
  Was against, but AFAIK not anymore https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/ https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/
BrendanEich 7y ago
We scrubbed and stubbed chromium front end code of all sorts of stateful requests to gstatic and other Google domains. We have Mark Pilgrim (11 years on Chrome at Google) working for us along with top people from Igalia. We've little-snitched as well as grepped. Some of the signaling bottoms out in common objects, which make stubbing easy. Anyway, we've nullified all the surveillance. A note on this WaPo story: I spent an hour with the reporter on the phone on 6/13 and practically wrote whole sentences in the piece. I've been calling Chrome spyware since last year. For some reason the piece ended up excluding not only Brave but Safari, which has deep anti-tracking history. Anyway, the story is getting out, and consciousness does not go backward.

mcbits 7y ago

Brave is built upon Electron, which is built upon Chromium (not Chrome). Electron and Chromium are both open source, unlike Chrome, although development is still concentrated in Google and GitHub/Microsoft. So I imagine it's fine unless something egregious happens with those projects and there isn't a strong enough community to maintain a clean fork.

krn 7y ago
> Brave is built upon Electron, which is built upon Chromium (not Chrome). Brave has been built directly upon Chromium since December 2018[1]. [1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/3328781/brave-browser-goes-full-chromium-by-adopting-google-ui.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3328781/brave-browser-...
- mcbits 7y ago
  Oops! I actually thought about double-checking that before writing it, but I vaguely remember reading some list of reasons why they had initially gone with Electron instead of Chromium, so I assumed it was still true.

Fat_Thor 7y ago

Last I check, Brave disables all of Google related services by default except for Safe Browsing, which check for malicious downloads and sites. Even search suggestion is turned off by default.

firecall 7y ago

Brendan Eich is against LGBT rights. For this reason I will never use Brave. Here's the first link from a search https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9tsg2h/i_didnt_know_that_brendan_stepped_down_as_mozilla/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/9tsg2h/i_didnt_...

sendmarsh 7y ago
Was against, but AFAIK not anymore https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/ https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/

BrendanEich 7y ago

We scrubbed and stubbed chromium front end code of all sorts of stateful requests to gstatic and other Google domains. We have Mark Pilgrim (11 years on Chrome at Google) working for us along with top people from Igalia. We've little-snitched as well as grepped. Some of the signaling bottoms out in common objects, which make stubbing easy. Anyway, we've nullified all the surveillance. A note on this WaPo story: I spent an hour with the reporter on the phone on 6/13 and practically wrote whole sentences in the piece. I've been calling Chrome spyware since last year. For some reason the piece ended up excluding not only Brave but Safari, which has deep anti-tracking history. Anyway, the story is getting out, and consciousness does not go backward.