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Here's the conditions of the current ones; >The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to gi
by inflatableDodo 7y ago
Here's the conditions of the current ones;
>The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, despite a settlement agreement that requires detainees be kept in “safe and sanitary” facilities.
>All three judges appeared incredulous during the hearing in San Francisco, in which the Trump administration challenged previous legal findings that it is violating a landmark class action settlement by mistreating undocumented immigrant children at U.S. detention facilities.
>“You’re really going to stand up and tell us that being able to sleep isn’t a question of safe and sanitary conditions?'” U.S. Circuit Judge Marsha Berzon asked the Justice Department’s Sarah Fabian Tuesday.
>U.S. Circuit Judge William Fletcher also questioned the government’s interpretation of the settlement agreement.
>“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do anything other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” Fletcher asked Fabian. “I find that inconceivable that the government would say that that is safe and sanitary.”
>The settlement at issue came out of Jenny Lisette Flores v. Edwin Meese, filed in 1985 on behalf of a class of unaccompanied minors fleeing torture and abuse in Central America.
>Finally agreed upon in 1997, the settlement established guidelines for the humane detention, treatment and release of minors taken into federal immigration custody. The guidelines include the right to a bond hearing and requirements that immigration authorities timely release children to parents or guardians and place those not released in facilities that meet certain standards. The facilities are supposed to be “safe and sanitary.”
>The settlement landed back in court in 2015, when class members moved to enforce it following the Obama administration’s announcement that it would scrap bond hearings because they conflicted with newer immigration laws. In legal filings, the class contended the elimination of bond hearings and dirty and dangerous conditions at short-term holding facilities operated by the Border Patrol violated the agreement.
>U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee in Los Angeles granted the class’ motion and ordered the appointment of an independent monitor to ensure government compliance with Flores.
>Gee said the administration had breached Flores by failing to provide detainees with adequate food and clean drinking water, or with hygiene items like soap, toothbrushes and towels. She also concluded that the children were being deprived of sleep and access to bathrooms, and were subjected to near-freezing temperatures.
>The Ninth Circuit affirmed much of Gee’s ruling in July 2017, finding that detainees were still entitled to bond hearings.
>On Tuesday, Fabian asked the Ninth Circuit to reverse Gee’s findings because they added new requirements – such as giving detainees soap and toothbrushes – that were not specifically included in Flores.
>“One has to assume it was left that way and not enumerated by the parties because either the parties couldn’t reach agreement on how to enumerate that or it was left to the agencies to determine,” Fabian said.
>“Or it was relatively obvious,” Fletcher shot back. “And at least obvious enough so that if you’re putting people into a crowded room to sleep on a concrete floor with an aluminum-foil blanket on top of them that it doesn’t comply with the agreement.”
>“It wasn’t perfumed soap, it was soap. That’s part of ‘safe and sanitary.’ Are you disagreeing with that?” he added.
>Class counsel Peter Schey said that, although Gee had listed specific items such as toothbrushes in her order, which were not listed in the settlement, settlement compliance must be analyzed in terms of California contract law, under which the general terms in an agreement must be “reasonably interpreted.”
>“The first thing you do is honor the plain meaning” of words like “safe” and “sanitary,” Schey said.
>“Today we have a situation where once a month a child is dying in [federal] custody,” he added. “Certainly the Border Patrol facilities are secure, but they’re not safe and they’re not sanitary.”
https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-tell-9th-circuit-detained-kids-safe-and-sanitary-without-soap/ https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-tell-9th-circuit-detaine...
- youdontknowtho 7y agoThanks for posting this. I can't believe there is support for these things. I don't know that else to say. The description is so stark.
- inflatableDodo 7y agoUnfortunately I am not surprised that there is support for these things. There exist some deeply unpleasant people who seem to exist in a permanent state of vicarious sadism. Essentially they like people being mistreated by other people. A not insubstantial section of the population are thoroughly entertained by the situation these children are in. They are generally the same people who become extraordinarily pleased at the first sign of war.
- ars 7y agoThis has been going on since 1985?
- inflatableDodo 7y agoThe standards for detention of migrant children were agreed on in 1985. The current administration is saying that those standards do not not explicitly mention soap or toothbrushes, so therefore they are not required to provide them.
- gd1 7y agoThe case you are discussing was started under the Obama administration. See: https://twitter.com/AG_Conservative/status/1142532346530451456 https://twitter.com/AG_Conservative/status/11425323465304514... You've been had.
- masonic 7y agoIn fairness, it should be noted that all four of the referenced judges are Democrat nominees (Gee:Obama, while all three judges on the panel were Clinton nominees).
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