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I still can't find an alternative to Chrome's Dev console, especially for responsive design testing. Firefox's version is alright at the moment, but not nearly

I still can't find an alternative to Chrome's Dev console, especially for responsive design testing. Firefox's version is alright at the moment, but not nearly as polished.

jsilence 7y ago
Well yeah ok, if a couple of frontend developers use this as a valuable, okay, granted.
dsenkus 7y ago
I switched to Firefox once Quantum came out and never looked back, I do tend to use Chrome occasionally when developing web apps, but FF has been my main browser for a while now and I'm perfectly happy with it and the development features it provides. What I'm saying is you can still use Chrome for testing/development and FF for browsing (with respect to your privacy)
larrysalibra 7y ago
Safari is great for responsive design testing.
- Garvey 7y ago
  Not on windows...
nicoburns 7y ago
The new Edge has an almost identical one...
SE_Student 7y ago
I mentioned this earlier, but you could try "Brave" (https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/) a web browser based on chrome. same features just less of the google-stickiness.
agumonkey 7y ago
Maybe this event will cause an inrush of new devs for firefox and more motivation from the core team ?
bulditand 7y ago
" - This train goes to Auschwitz, we must ditch it." " - Nah, the other train doesn't have so comfy chairs."
- dillonmckay 7y ago
  Are you comparing a web browser to the Holocaust?
  - bulditand 7y ago
    No, the surveillance. Edit: Not the web browser. I believe the current surveillance practices are dangerous to a free world. Hence the analogy with the train that goes to a bad place. And newsbinator was talking about some feature, which is important but nowhere near the main issue. Hence the comfy chairs. Can somebody explain why am I being downvoted?
iamben 7y ago
Which part of 'responsive design testing' in particular do you mean? I use devtools pretty religiously to check elements, but put responsivetester.net together a few years back for rapidly testing across multiple breakpoints. Then I'll use lambdatest.com (because it's wonderfully cheap) to actually device test prior to launch...
- SahAssar 7y ago
  Well, as responsivetester.net uses iframes it will not work if the site is properly protected from click-jacking using the X-Frame-Options or CSP headers, and it will also not emulate touch scrolling/events. The devtools basically bring you a little bit closer to the real thing, although you still need to test with real devices in the end either way. As for how to use it see here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Responsive_Design_Mode https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Responsive_De...
EugeneOZ 7y ago
MS Edge is good.
- EugeneOZ 7y ago
  And downvotes why? Because you learned to hate MS or because can't respect different opinions?
tjoff 7y ago
People bring this up but I just can't fathom how that can be an argument. Just use both. Use firefox for everything but keep chrome for development and potentially any google services you use. You really want to segment that anyway. Win-win-win.
naavis 7y ago
Getting more and more people using Firefox will most likely improve the dev tools.
reidrac 7y ago
You can use Chrome (or Chromium) for development and Firefox for regular browsing. Is that a big deal?
Zardoz84 7y ago
actually I find the Dev tools of Firefox Better that Chrome. Far more intuitive
onyva 7y ago
Using chrome exclusively as a devtool is also an option, no? Anything else I’ll do on Firefox including containerized Google, Twitter and Facebook (deleted my account but using to block Facebook from any activity online that might be using them).
sturza 7y ago
What about Chromium?

I still can't find an alternative to Chrome's Dev console, especially for responsive design testing. Firefox's version is alright at the moment, but not nearly as polished.

jsilence 7y ago

Well yeah ok, if a couple of frontend developers use this as a valuable, okay, granted.

dsenkus 7y ago

I switched to Firefox once Quantum came out and never looked back, I do tend to use Chrome occasionally when developing web apps, but FF has been my main browser for a while now and I'm perfectly happy with it and the development features it provides. What I'm saying is you can still use Chrome for testing/development and FF for browsing (with respect to your privacy)

larrysalibra 7y ago

Safari is great for responsive design testing.

Garvey 7y ago
Not on windows...

nicoburns 7y ago

The new Edge has an almost identical one...

SE_Student 7y ago

I mentioned this earlier, but you could try "Brave" (https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/) a web browser based on chrome. same features just less of the google-stickiness.

agumonkey 7y ago

Maybe this event will cause an inrush of new devs for firefox and more motivation from the core team ?

bulditand 7y ago

" - This train goes to Auschwitz, we must ditch it." " - Nah, the other train doesn't have so comfy chairs."

dillonmckay 7y ago
Are you comparing a web browser to the Holocaust?
- bulditand 7y ago
  No, the surveillance. Edit: Not the web browser. I believe the current surveillance practices are dangerous to a free world. Hence the analogy with the train that goes to a bad place. And newsbinator was talking about some feature, which is important but nowhere near the main issue. Hence the comfy chairs. Can somebody explain why am I being downvoted?

iamben 7y ago

Which part of 'responsive design testing' in particular do you mean? I use devtools pretty religiously to check elements, but put responsivetester.net together a few years back for rapidly testing across multiple breakpoints. Then I'll use lambdatest.com (because it's wonderfully cheap) to actually device test prior to launch...

SahAssar 7y ago
Well, as responsivetester.net uses iframes it will not work if the site is properly protected from click-jacking using the X-Frame-Options or CSP headers, and it will also not emulate touch scrolling/events. The devtools basically bring you a little bit closer to the real thing, although you still need to test with real devices in the end either way. As for how to use it see here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Responsive_Design_Mode https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Responsive_De...

EugeneOZ 7y ago

MS Edge is good.

EugeneOZ 7y ago
And downvotes why? Because you learned to hate MS or because can't respect different opinions?

tjoff 7y ago

People bring this up but I just can't fathom how that can be an argument. Just use both. Use firefox for everything but keep chrome for development and potentially any google services you use. You really want to segment that anyway. Win-win-win.

naavis 7y ago

Getting more and more people using Firefox will most likely improve the dev tools.

reidrac 7y ago

You can use Chrome (or Chromium) for development and Firefox for regular browsing. Is that a big deal?

Zardoz84 7y ago

actually I find the Dev tools of Firefox Better that Chrome. Far more intuitive

onyva 7y ago

Using chrome exclusively as a devtool is also an option, no? Anything else I’ll do on Firefox including containerized Google, Twitter and Facebook (deleted my account but using to block Facebook from any activity online that might be using them).

sturza 7y ago

What about Chromium?