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I'm Brazilian, and I'm not sure .amazon would be useful for us. Here, we don't call Amazon rainforest, well, amazon. We call "Amazônia" and in Spanish "Amazoni

I'm Brazilian, and I'm not sure .amazon would be useful for us. Here, we don't call Amazon rainforest, well, amazon. We call "Amazônia" and in Spanish "Amazonia". I don't see how Brazil or Peru would use .amazon for public interests, unless it's targeted for international purposes (read: tourism). But let's be honest, the "protection and awareness" is needed here on South America, where they are destroying it.

thrw374758 7y ago
It’s about money. The TLD is worth a lot. While I think .amzn would be more appropriate there is also a significant phishing risk for .amazon to be open to the public. Not everyone uses a password manager.
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Wowfunhappy 7y ago
They wanted the tld for tourism.
- geezerjay 7y ago
  > They wanted the tld for tourism. How many sites are they expecting to operate in order to justify a dedicated tld ?
  - reitzensteinm 7y ago
    How many sites does Amazon need?
    - Phillipharryt 7y ago
      Presumably even if they don't intend to use the tld for lots of sites (perhaps stores could have subdomains) they'll be using the tld as a way of proving authenticity. Only they can create links with .amazon so they can assure customers of their safety from phishing etc.
    - drusepth 7y ago
      This isn't really a good-faith argument (for Amazon or SA) because of the reliance of opinions inherent in the word "need". It could be argued Amazon only "needs" one domain: Amazon.com (or com.amazon, heh). It could also be argued Amazon "needs" 1,000 domains (aws.amazon, books.amazon, electronics.amazon, prime.amazon, videos.amazon, etc). Who's to say who's "right" in these opinions? Nobody really seems to care about what the most "right" domain is, anyway. Ignoring the mess that is .com/.org/.net, it's a daily occurrence to see .ai domains outside of Anguilla, .ly domains outside of Libya, etc.
      - jayzalowitz 7y ago
        The real argument here to me is actually for AWS purposes... in which case i can see millions.
  - angus-prune 7y ago
    Probably more than Amazon. There are several countries, multiple markets, and potentially countless government agencies or local companies operating in the area.
fiblye 7y ago
A lot of country top levels aren't based on the local language's name, but the English one. For example, Zhongguo, the country sometimes known as China, uses .cn instead of .zg. And yeah, regarding tourism, most people traveling there from outside of Brazil will probably be searching for the English name. I can see why they'd prefer .amazon for that purpose, even if the uses are limited. But then again, how many domains does Amazon (the company) really need?
- kijeda 7y ago
  Zhongguo also has .中国 and .中國 as top-level domains which would presumably be more intelligible to Chinese speakers.
  - fiblye 7y ago
    That is true, but non-ascii TLDs are also relatively recent.
    - eridius 7y ago
      I didn't realize there even were non-ascii TLDs. I thought non-ascii domain name components were restricted to everything but the TLD.
      - dehrmann 7y ago
        Domain names are ascii; there's just an encoding for unicode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode
        eridius 7y ago
        Right, but those weren't originally allowed for TLDs. It looks like internationalized ccTLDs were finally approved in 2009.
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loceng 7y ago
I suppose it will become an issue when Amazon likely tries to block any effort to register .amazonia
- mc32 7y ago
  If they did that, then yes, I think the countries would have a proper grievance against the company.
mc32 7y ago
Yep. Only reason they’re looking for an English TLD is because they expect more tourists from English speaking areas than from the local regional populations, otherwise they’d prefer .amazônias/. Also for the region/biome it’s usually referred to as “The Amazon”
- Zenbit_UX 7y ago
  No, it's because the internet is in English. How is it possible someone on hacker news does not understand this?

thrw374758 7y ago

It’s about money. The TLD is worth a lot. While I think .amzn would be more appropriate there is also a significant phishing risk for .amazon to be open to the public. Not everyone uses a password manager.

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Wowfunhappy 7y ago

They wanted the tld for tourism.

geezerjay 7y ago
> They wanted the tld for tourism. How many sites are they expecting to operate in order to justify a dedicated tld ?
- reitzensteinm 7y ago
  How many sites does Amazon need?
  - Phillipharryt 7y ago
    Presumably even if they don't intend to use the tld for lots of sites (perhaps stores could have subdomains) they'll be using the tld as a way of proving authenticity. Only they can create links with .amazon so they can assure customers of their safety from phishing etc.
  - drusepth 7y ago
    This isn't really a good-faith argument (for Amazon or SA) because of the reliance of opinions inherent in the word "need". It could be argued Amazon only "needs" one domain: Amazon.com (or com.amazon, heh). It could also be argued Amazon "needs" 1,000 domains (aws.amazon, books.amazon, electronics.amazon, prime.amazon, videos.amazon, etc). Who's to say who's "right" in these opinions? Nobody really seems to care about what the most "right" domain is, anyway. Ignoring the mess that is .com/.org/.net, it's a daily occurrence to see .ai domains outside of Anguilla, .ly domains outside of Libya, etc.
    - jayzalowitz 7y ago
      The real argument here to me is actually for AWS purposes... in which case i can see millions.
- angus-prune 7y ago
  Probably more than Amazon. There are several countries, multiple markets, and potentially countless government agencies or local companies operating in the area.

fiblye 7y ago

A lot of country top levels aren't based on the local language's name, but the English one. For example, Zhongguo, the country sometimes known as China, uses .cn instead of .zg. And yeah, regarding tourism, most people traveling there from outside of Brazil will probably be searching for the English name. I can see why they'd prefer .amazon for that purpose, even if the uses are limited. But then again, how many domains does Amazon (the company) really need?

kijeda 7y ago
Zhongguo also has .中国 and .中國 as top-level domains which would presumably be more intelligible to Chinese speakers.
- fiblye 7y ago
  That is true, but non-ascii TLDs are also relatively recent.
  - eridius 7y ago
    I didn't realize there even were non-ascii TLDs. I thought non-ascii domain name components were restricted to everything but the TLD.
    - dehrmann 7y ago
      Domain names are ascii; there's just an encoding for unicode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode
      - eridius 7y ago
        Right, but those weren't originally allowed for TLDs. It looks like internationalized ccTLDs were finally approved in 2009.
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loceng 7y ago

I suppose it will become an issue when Amazon likely tries to block any effort to register .amazonia

mc32 7y ago
If they did that, then yes, I think the countries would have a proper grievance against the company.

mc32 7y ago

Yep. Only reason they’re looking for an English TLD is because they expect more tourists from English speaking areas than from the local regional populations, otherwise they’d prefer .amazônias/. Also for the region/biome it’s usually referred to as “The Amazon”

Zenbit_UX 7y ago
No, it's because the internet is in English. How is it possible someone on hacker news does not understand this?