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I suspect the best option would be an integrated hybrid system of PV and heat systems. A friend of mine measured the efficiencyo of his solar panel roof. They g

I suspect the best option would be an integrated hybrid system of PV and heat systems. A friend of mine measured the efficiencyo of his solar panel roof. They got much less efficient when they're hot, and they heat up quickly in the sun. So we speculated that of we were to apply some kind of water cooling system behind the solar panels that would store the excess heat somewhere in the ground for winter, we might get even higher energy savings than just the sum of its parts

ncmncm 7y ago
Yes -- photovoltaics waste heat, thermals waste light. Collect both, and you get maybe double the areal efficiency. Most of us can't put up a bigger roof, but we can make better use of it.
- vanderZwan 7y ago
  And the fun part would be to make the cooling system self-powered yet magically more efficient! I'm surprised I haven't seen any hard-core tech geek nerd out on trying to optimize their home installation like this. The various experiments by the Low Tech Magazine people come closest, I think.
  - ianai 7y ago
    Water cooling electronics is pretty tough. I agree in principle with you. My instincts say it’s not been done because it requires lots of custom manufacturing. Having said that, I wish EV charging stations also hooked up to a battery coolant system. Circulate the coolant with a bigger apparatus to really cool the unit during charge. I had a “fever dream” one time about using such stations to evaporate sea water. Ie have the network of gas/charging stations serve as a way to pull in sea water inland.
    - vanderZwan 7y ago
      > My instincts say it’s not been done because it requires lots of custom manufacturing. Yes, but OTOH: when has that kind of technical challenge stopped a bunch of nerds before? If anything I'd expect it to provoke them to try!
  - schiffern 7y ago
    If you like Low Tech Magazine, check out Build It Solar: https://builditsolar.com/ https://builditsolar.com/
- jonstewart 7y ago
  I have a quasi-passive solar home (from the early 80s) that I’m looking to optimize, and so have been researching a bunch of solutions. The most clever build I’ve found is from Resystech (ie some guy in Canada), who built a heat collector off his solar panels and then built a duct switch to either pump hot air directly into this house or, if not quite hot enough, to duct it through his heat pump. His build video is here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmckigvz7Hg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmckigvz7Hg

ncmncm 7y ago

Yes -- photovoltaics waste heat, thermals waste light. Collect both, and you get maybe double the areal efficiency. Most of us can't put up a bigger roof, but we can make better use of it.

vanderZwan 7y ago
And the fun part would be to make the cooling system self-powered yet magically more efficient! I'm surprised I haven't seen any hard-core tech geek nerd out on trying to optimize their home installation like this. The various experiments by the Low Tech Magazine people come closest, I think.
- ianai 7y ago
  Water cooling electronics is pretty tough. I agree in principle with you. My instincts say it’s not been done because it requires lots of custom manufacturing. Having said that, I wish EV charging stations also hooked up to a battery coolant system. Circulate the coolant with a bigger apparatus to really cool the unit during charge. I had a “fever dream” one time about using such stations to evaporate sea water. Ie have the network of gas/charging stations serve as a way to pull in sea water inland.
  - vanderZwan 7y ago
    > My instincts say it’s not been done because it requires lots of custom manufacturing. Yes, but OTOH: when has that kind of technical challenge stopped a bunch of nerds before? If anything I'd expect it to provoke them to try!
- schiffern 7y ago
  If you like Low Tech Magazine, check out Build It Solar: https://builditsolar.com/ https://builditsolar.com/
jonstewart 7y ago
I have a quasi-passive solar home (from the early 80s) that I’m looking to optimize, and so have been researching a bunch of solutions. The most clever build I’ve found is from Resystech (ie some guy in Canada), who built a heat collector off his solar panels and then built a duct switch to either pump hot air directly into this house or, if not quite hot enough, to duct it through his heat pump. His build video is here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmckigvz7Hg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmckigvz7Hg