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He hasn't lied about anything. If you do a search in these comments for people who have actually given him money, I think you'll find that none of us have done

He hasn't lied about anything. If you do a search in these comments for people who have actually given him money, I think you'll find that none of us have done so under the pretense that all the features he listed on the website are finished. We're also not "buying" anything. We're supporting a developer who is writing a language we would like to one day use. How else is it going to get written? Do we expect somebody to toil away in obscurity for no pay for 5+ years first? I would consider it money well spent even if he never finishes it. I'm voting for the language I want with my wallet. Yes, this opens me up to making me feel like a sucker if he is a scam artist. But, he's delivered things in the past and he's delivered things even since the last conversation. Most frauds don't ship.

esimov 7y ago
It's not about founding or donation, it's all about false promises. How you can give false assumptions about something which does not exists and it's not provable. I'm thinking here about all the optimistic features the author is acclaiming. As some of the commenters mentioned practically is impossible to build a product (a new programming language) in solo and having only a couple of thousands of LOC.
- ScottFree 7y ago
  You need to stop. There are no false promises or false assumptions going on here. If there were, then the negative coverage over the past three days would include outrage from his patreon subscribers and his patreon donations would have gone down considerably. Neither of these things have happened.
hutzlibu 7y ago
I said very clearly, I am not judging about this case as I did not follow it enough. From what I saw I also do not think so.
- ScottFree 7y ago
  You clearly implied the author of this project is a liar and now you're trying to walk it back without admitting fault. Why is it so many people online can't admit when they're wrong? "I'm sorry. I was wrong." Is that really so hard to type?
  - hutzlibu 7y ago
    To quote myself from above: "not judging about that case here" Now. "Why is it so many people online can't admit when they're wrong? "I'm sorry. I was wrong." Is that really so hard to type? " You have something to say?
    - ScottFree 7y ago
      > Except in cases where people make money from a limited avaiable fund, by lying. > You have something to say? Do you? Nobody buys your "clever" attempts to be "sneaky." You called this project author a liar. Period.
      - hutzlibu 7y ago
        I showed you my quote where I said I do not judge about this case .. and just speak in general. Can you show me where I said otherwise? No? And you can't even follow your own advise you gave me about admiting beeing wrong? Pitty you.
        ScottFree 7y ago
        > I showed you my quote where I said I do not judge about this case And then I quoted exactly where you called Alex a liar. Stop lying. Stop trying to be clever. You're not pulling it off.
        hutzlibu 7y ago
        "And then I quoted exactly where you called Alex a liar. " Where? This is my quote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20252153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20252153 And your quote of me accusing "alex" of lying?

esimov 7y ago

It's not about founding or donation, it's all about false promises. How you can give false assumptions about something which does not exists and it's not provable. I'm thinking here about all the optimistic features the author is acclaiming. As some of the commenters mentioned practically is impossible to build a product (a new programming language) in solo and having only a couple of thousands of LOC.

ScottFree 7y ago
You need to stop. There are no false promises or false assumptions going on here. If there were, then the negative coverage over the past three days would include outrage from his patreon subscribers and his patreon donations would have gone down considerably. Neither of these things have happened.

hutzlibu 7y ago

I said very clearly, I am not judging about this case as I did not follow it enough. From what I saw I also do not think so.

ScottFree 7y ago
You clearly implied the author of this project is a liar and now you're trying to walk it back without admitting fault. Why is it so many people online can't admit when they're wrong? "I'm sorry. I was wrong." Is that really so hard to type?
- hutzlibu 7y ago
  To quote myself from above: "not judging about that case here" Now. "Why is it so many people online can't admit when they're wrong? "I'm sorry. I was wrong." Is that really so hard to type? " You have something to say?
  - ScottFree 7y ago
    > Except in cases where people make money from a limited avaiable fund, by lying. > You have something to say? Do you? Nobody buys your "clever" attempts to be "sneaky." You called this project author a liar. Period.
    - hutzlibu 7y ago
      I showed you my quote where I said I do not judge about this case .. and just speak in general. Can you show me where I said otherwise? No? And you can't even follow your own advise you gave me about admiting beeing wrong? Pitty you.
      - ScottFree 7y ago
        > I showed you my quote where I said I do not judge about this case And then I quoted exactly where you called Alex a liar. Stop lying. Stop trying to be clever. You're not pulling it off.
        hutzlibu 7y ago
        "And then I quoted exactly where you called Alex a liar. " Where? This is my quote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20252153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20252153 And your quote of me accusing "alex" of lying?