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> Eligibility: The Contest is open to individuals who are (1) over the age of eighteen (18) at the time of entry; (2) not a resident of Quebec, Cuba, Iran, Syri

> Eligibility: The Contest is open to individuals who are (1) over the age of eighteen (18) at the time of entry; (2) not a resident of Quebec, Cuba, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Sudan, or Crimea; [1] Why Quebec is banned? https://buildyourfuture.withgoogle.com/events/ctf/#!?detail-content-tabby_activeEl=about https://buildyourfuture.withgoogle.com/events/ctf/#!?detail-...

buckminster 7y ago
Just guessing: because it's not available in French.
- apthnz 7y ago
  France isn't banned?
  - etskinner 7y ago
    Might be required to provide instructions and support in French to be allowed to run a copetition in Quebec, but no such rule in France.
archgoon 7y ago
Stringent local laws with respect to competitions. https://www.thebalanceeveryday.com/why-are-so-many-competitions-void-in-quebec-896835 https://www.thebalanceeveryday.com/why-are-so-many-competiti...
- wcchandler 7y ago
  > Why is Quebec excluded from the CTF? Local laws and regulations make it extremely challenging for us to run a competition open to residents of Quebec. We are truly sorry about this, and hope to change this in the future if possible.
  - Theodores 7y ago
    This aspect could be the real hurdle: "Pay a fee of up to 10% of the sweepstakes' value, depending on who is allowed to enter." So they would need to pay Quebec $3K just to have the competition available there, even if it is a global competition. It sounds to me that Quebec have got to have some reason for these Quebec special laws. It has nothing to do with France, there has to be another reason. Does anyone have any ideas?
    - lstamour 7y ago
      From a 2011 Globe and Mail article: > Ever notice that Canadian contests keep barring the poor residents of Quebec from entering? It's not that contests are illegal in Quebec – it's just that the government makes it especially difficult to run one. > For one thing, contest runners have to pay tax on the value of the prize. For another thing, contests with prizes over $2,000 have to register their rules with a government agency, the Régie des alcools des courses et des jeux – which is usually just referred to as the "Régie." > To top it off, contests with prizes worth more than $5,000 actually have to deposit an amount as a security with the Régie, as a means of protecting consumers should the contest runner fold or renege. > When compounded with the complexities of working in two languages at once, many contest runners simply disqualify entrants from the province.
      - dmix 7y ago
        Yeah that's a good way to make everyone just skip your whole province. Just like how all the big headquarter offices moved to Toronto from Montreal in the 1970s, Quebec keeps shooting themselves in the foot. This chart shows everything you need to know: http://www.newgeography.com/files/cox-toronto-evolve-1.png http://www.newgeography.com/files/cox-toronto-evolve-1.png By all means they should be the dominant city in Canada instead of Toronto, or at least equal. But they are so obsessed with mirroring France's obsession with rules. Canada almost always ranks near the top of the Economic Freedom Indexes (higher than the US), while France is in the middle ranking below most post-soviet eastern European nation states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
- dmix 7y ago
  > Quebec's sweepstakes laws are designed to protect its residents from scammers and to ensure that prizes are awarded as promised. The solution they came up with is to make the rules so complicated that there are no sweepstakes available in Quebec! Cool.
mises 7y ago
Better question: why is under-18 banned?
- behindsight 7y ago
  Most likely for any contracts accepted to be legally binding.
  - paulddraper 7y ago
    Google Code Jam has no such restriction.
    - behindsight 7y ago
      Google Code Jam has restrictions: 16 years or older to participate; 18 years or older to attend the onsite final round. > If your age is not at least the Minimum Age [18+], you are only eligible to win a t-shirt. https://codingcompetitions.withgoogle.com/codejam/rulesandterms https://codingcompetitions.withgoogle.com/codejam/rulesandte...
- Gaelan 7y ago
  I think some jurisdictions have laws requiring that, probably as an anti-gambling thing.
ehsankia 7y ago
Quebec is always banned in most online competitions with a prize (I believe you can participate in Codejam for cannot win any prize), because local law forces these competition to be both in French and English. If it's not bilingual, they're not allowed.

buckminster 7y ago

Just guessing: because it's not available in French.

apthnz 7y ago
France isn't banned?
- etskinner 7y ago
  Might be required to provide instructions and support in French to be allowed to run a copetition in Quebec, but no such rule in France.

archgoon 7y ago

Stringent local laws with respect to competitions. https://www.thebalanceeveryday.com/why-are-so-many-competitions-void-in-quebec-896835 https://www.thebalanceeveryday.com/why-are-so-many-competiti...

wcchandler 7y ago
> Why is Quebec excluded from the CTF? Local laws and regulations make it extremely challenging for us to run a competition open to residents of Quebec. We are truly sorry about this, and hope to change this in the future if possible.
- Theodores 7y ago
  This aspect could be the real hurdle: "Pay a fee of up to 10% of the sweepstakes' value, depending on who is allowed to enter." So they would need to pay Quebec $3K just to have the competition available there, even if it is a global competition. It sounds to me that Quebec have got to have some reason for these Quebec special laws. It has nothing to do with France, there has to be another reason. Does anyone have any ideas?
  - lstamour 7y ago
    From a 2011 Globe and Mail article: > Ever notice that Canadian contests keep barring the poor residents of Quebec from entering? It's not that contests are illegal in Quebec – it's just that the government makes it especially difficult to run one. > For one thing, contest runners have to pay tax on the value of the prize. For another thing, contests with prizes over $2,000 have to register their rules with a government agency, the Régie des alcools des courses et des jeux – which is usually just referred to as the "Régie." > To top it off, contests with prizes worth more than $5,000 actually have to deposit an amount as a security with the Régie, as a means of protecting consumers should the contest runner fold or renege. > When compounded with the complexities of working in two languages at once, many contest runners simply disqualify entrants from the province.
    - dmix 7y ago
      Yeah that's a good way to make everyone just skip your whole province. Just like how all the big headquarter offices moved to Toronto from Montreal in the 1970s, Quebec keeps shooting themselves in the foot. This chart shows everything you need to know: http://www.newgeography.com/files/cox-toronto-evolve-1.png http://www.newgeography.com/files/cox-toronto-evolve-1.png By all means they should be the dominant city in Canada instead of Toronto, or at least equal. But they are so obsessed with mirroring France's obsession with rules. Canada almost always ranks near the top of the Economic Freedom Indexes (higher than the US), while France is in the middle ranking below most post-soviet eastern European nation states. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
dmix 7y ago
> Quebec's sweepstakes laws are designed to protect its residents from scammers and to ensure that prizes are awarded as promised. The solution they came up with is to make the rules so complicated that there are no sweepstakes available in Quebec! Cool.

mises 7y ago

Better question: why is under-18 banned?

behindsight 7y ago
Most likely for any contracts accepted to be legally binding.
- paulddraper 7y ago
  Google Code Jam has no such restriction.
  - behindsight 7y ago
    Google Code Jam has restrictions: 16 years or older to participate; 18 years or older to attend the onsite final round. > If your age is not at least the Minimum Age [18+], you are only eligible to win a t-shirt. https://codingcompetitions.withgoogle.com/codejam/rulesandterms https://codingcompetitions.withgoogle.com/codejam/rulesandte...
Gaelan 7y ago
I think some jurisdictions have laws requiring that, probably as an anti-gambling thing.

ehsankia 7y ago

Quebec is always banned in most online competitions with a prize (I believe you can participate in Codejam for cannot win any prize), because local law forces these competition to be both in French and English. If it's not bilingual, they're not allowed.