"U.S. abuses and provocations, (Iran?)" I don't consider getting our drone bombed out of the sky and backing down from a missile strike a 'provocation'. It's

"U.S. abuses and provocations, (Iran?)" I don't consider getting our drone bombed out of the sky and backing down from a missile strike a 'provocation'. It's much better than our previous administration's idea, which is to give them money to go away and hope they don't use it on nuclear weapons against us. "The U.S. doesn't really care about human rights, or its own abuse of them" Sure it does. There are stories every month about people in our military getting prosecuted for abuses. I don't think I've heard one story about this happening in China or Saudi Arabia. "so you'd be voting for posturing" It's not all or nothing. Nothing the US is doing even compares to the horrors of China. It's good to have a candidate against this. I seriously doubt this will ever happen. Trump is the only president that would even broach the idea of punishing China. If a Democrat gets into office in 2020, it will be business as usual and the problems will be kicked down the road, like they have been with Iran.