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There is something brilliant about using a group of people who intentionally keep their organs in the best possible condition (Falun Gong does exercise, avoids

by rdl 7y ago

There is something brilliant about using a group of people who intentionally keep their organs in the best possible condition (Falun Gong does exercise, avoids alcohol, smoking, and some foods, etc.) as your oppressed-minority-live-organ-banks. OTOH, I think the only reason they were hated was due to being popular and somehow offending or scaring someone in power. They were tolerated or even supported for a long time and then suddenly The Enemy. The Falun Gong repression is probably one of the greatest examples of evil in the world today.

krn 7y ago
> I think the only reason they were hated was due to being popular and somehow offending or scaring someone in power. The idea of not being the highest authority to the people is the scariest thing to any authoritarian power. That's why they are closing churches, jailing pastors, and rewriting scripture in China as Christianity’s popularity grows[1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/china-christians-religious-persecution-translation-bible https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/china-christia...
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thedudeabides5 7y ago
This doesn’t help either as cultural context https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom
throwaway2019B 7y ago
It's incredible the mysticism that outsiders assign to Falun Gong. If Falun Gong were in the West, you'd look at them the same way you look at Scientologists and anti-vaxxers. The entire premise behind Falun Gong is that it cleanses your body of diseases such that you won't need medication. So you had people literally dying from abandoning their medication in favor of Falun Gong exercises while the leader collected fees from giving seminars/selling books on his system. Remove the context of this taking place in the evil country that is China, and all you have left is just another cult leader selling snake oil.
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
  There is a fundamental difference between anti-vaxxers and the Falun Dafa (Falun Gong is the same thing, I'm referring to it as Falun Dafa because that't their preferred name). The Falun Dafa take active steps to avoid needing Western medicine (you aren't as likely to go into depression if you exercise and do stuff every day, and thus not need anti-depressants) whilst most anti-vaxxers are only united in not giving their children Western medicine. It's one thing to say "I don't like that option, so I won't take it", and another to say "I don't like that option, so I'll do something else". Do I agree with all of Falun Dafa's beliefs? No, I do not. Should they be chopped up and their organs harvested? NO.
  - unityByFreedom 7y ago
    above your comment is an attempt to assign cult status to Falun Dafa. Classic smear, and has been China's go-to for years.
    - throwaway2019B 7y ago
      Fantastic rebuttal. I guess I just wasn't seeing things from your perspective before.

by rdl 7y ago

krn 7y ago

> I think the only reason they were hated was due to being popular and somehow offending or scaring someone in power. The idea of not being the highest authority to the people is the scariest thing to any authoritarian power. That's why they are closing churches, jailing pastors, and rewriting scripture in China as Christianity’s popularity grows[1]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/china-christians-religious-persecution-translation-bible https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/china-christia...

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thedudeabides5 7y ago

This doesn’t help either as cultural context https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom

throwaway2019B 7y ago

It's incredible the mysticism that outsiders assign to Falun Gong. If Falun Gong were in the West, you'd look at them the same way you look at Scientologists and anti-vaxxers. The entire premise behind Falun Gong is that it cleanses your body of diseases such that you won't need medication. So you had people literally dying from abandoning their medication in favor of Falun Gong exercises while the leader collected fees from giving seminars/selling books on his system. Remove the context of this taking place in the evil country that is China, and all you have left is just another cult leader selling snake oil.

HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
There is a fundamental difference between anti-vaxxers and the Falun Dafa (Falun Gong is the same thing, I'm referring to it as Falun Dafa because that't their preferred name). The Falun Dafa take active steps to avoid needing Western medicine (you aren't as likely to go into depression if you exercise and do stuff every day, and thus not need anti-depressants) whilst most anti-vaxxers are only united in not giving their children Western medicine. It's one thing to say "I don't like that option, so I won't take it", and another to say "I don't like that option, so I'll do something else". Do I agree with all of Falun Dafa's beliefs? No, I do not. Should they be chopped up and their organs harvested? NO.
- unityByFreedom 7y ago
  above your comment is an attempt to assign cult status to Falun Dafa. Classic smear, and has been China's go-to for years.
  - throwaway2019B 7y ago
    Fantastic rebuttal. I guess I just wasn't seeing things from your perspective before.