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The hacker news guidelines explicitly mention avoiding calling names like idiotic/idiots. @dang: does this merit a flag or ban? I think toxic fanatism make hn

by Apaec 7y ago

The hacker news guidelines explicitly mention avoiding calling names like idiotic/idiots. @dang: does this merit a flag or ban? I think toxic fanatism make hn a worse place for discussion.

privateSFacct 7y ago
Stop posting articles with over the top language from obvious competitors calling a competitors feature a “trick”. Talk about over the top language - “toxic fanaticism”? Really? The name calling of other posters you disagree with makes hn worse (my comments focused on a company not this community)
- Apaec 7y ago
  What's the problem with Google having a competitor, why are you so hyped about?(This is why I think you're a fanatic) Also, why are you so eagerly defending the big guy/monopolist in the room. Is this the attitude of an entrepreneur or hacker? One that is part of the "hacker news" community?
  - privateSFacct 7y ago
    Apaec - can I encourage you to focus on the post / article and make comments about that rather than attacking other posters? If you think this feature (which you don’t need to use) is a “trick” that has no value that is fine - explain why no one should use it - give some examples etc Stop with the whole focus on other posters motivations, calling them “toxic fanatics” etc. Google has lots of competitors - the big one is exchange / outlook - which has a confidential email mode. For a list of competitors look here: https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/email-hosting https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/email-hosting It’s not unreasonable for them to add a feature to better compete with MS. I didn’t even see Protonmail on that pie chart
    - privateSFacct 7y ago
      @dang - I'm sorry I'm unsure of how this @ mention banning process works. Please do review apaec approach before following their request for a ban. For example "I guess it can't be proved that this guy is a shill for AWS. But this kind of toxic fanatism(yet trying to sound logical) is just harmful for the HN community. dang: Can this kind of behavior be punished?" as an earlier comment around something to do with AWS. Why does someone "trying to sound logical" mean they are a "shill" or a "toxic fanatic"? In this thread I'm called a "toxic fanatic" and there is a claim about my support for monopolies and my lack of desire for competition (all of which is totally untrue in actual fact) with no substance regarding the value (or not) of the privacy / confidentiality feature google introduced. I'm also threatened with a ban.

by Apaec 7y ago

The hacker news guidelines explicitly mention avoiding calling names like idiotic/idiots. @dang: does this merit a flag or ban? I think toxic fanatism make hn a worse place for discussion.

privateSFacct 7y ago

Stop posting articles with over the top language from obvious competitors calling a competitors feature a “trick”. Talk about over the top language - “toxic fanaticism”? Really? The name calling of other posters you disagree with makes hn worse (my comments focused on a company not this community)

Apaec 7y ago
What's the problem with Google having a competitor, why are you so hyped about?(This is why I think you're a fanatic) Also, why are you so eagerly defending the big guy/monopolist in the room. Is this the attitude of an entrepreneur or hacker? One that is part of the "hacker news" community?
- privateSFacct 7y ago
  Apaec - can I encourage you to focus on the post / article and make comments about that rather than attacking other posters? If you think this feature (which you don’t need to use) is a “trick” that has no value that is fine - explain why no one should use it - give some examples etc Stop with the whole focus on other posters motivations, calling them “toxic fanatics” etc. Google has lots of competitors - the big one is exchange / outlook - which has a confidential email mode. For a list of competitors look here: https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/email-hosting https://www.datanyze.com/market-share/email-hosting It’s not unreasonable for them to add a feature to better compete with MS. I didn’t even see Protonmail on that pie chart
  - privateSFacct 7y ago
    @dang - I'm sorry I'm unsure of how this @ mention banning process works. Please do review apaec approach before following their request for a ban. For example "I guess it can't be proved that this guy is a shill for AWS. But this kind of toxic fanatism(yet trying to sound logical) is just harmful for the HN community. dang: Can this kind of behavior be punished?" as an earlier comment around something to do with AWS. Why does someone "trying to sound logical" mean they are a "shill" or a "toxic fanatic"? In this thread I'm called a "toxic fanatic" and there is a claim about my support for monopolies and my lack of desire for competition (all of which is totally untrue in actual fact) with no substance regarding the value (or not) of the privacy / confidentiality feature google introduced. I'm also threatened with a ban.