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As of the moment of writing, I do not see HTML5 competing with native games. Especially on mobile devices the performance problems are still to big to make it p

by tomh- 16y ago

As of the moment of writing, I do not see HTML5 competing with native games. Especially on mobile devices the performance problems are still to big to make it possible to write the same games as you could write natively. Also I was mentioning native 3D games, not native games such as casual/2d. It could quite possibly be that in the future it will be competing with native 3d games, but right now, this is not realistic to claim.

benologist 16y ago
Yes, Flash is the easy target. But it's also a complete non-victory - the prize for "winning" is HTML5 games will co-exist on sites like Kongregate and Armor Games, and maybe one day represent the majority of new titles. That still leaves games being developed natively for multiple mobile platforms that are bigger markets, more rewarding, and increasingly more important than Flash for casual gaming. The fight really isn't whether you develop: Flash + iPhone + Android + WinMo + whatever vs. HTML5 + iPhone + Android + WinMo + whatever. That nullifies the only benefit of HTML5 - not having to do different versions for each platform.
- wtracy 16y ago
  Zynga is worth more than EA now: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-26/zynga-tops-electronic-arts-as-social-games-spread.html http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-26/zynga-tops-elect... Like it or not, casual games are becoming a much, much bigger market than "hardcore" games. Bejeweled is one of the most profitable game franchises right now. If I were writing that game from scratch today, I would do it in Flash or HTML5. That gets you every desktop that matters, and the number of mobile devices that support those technologies is still growing.
  - benologist 16y ago
    Yeah the casual game industry is exploding, and my startup's a big part of it! My argument wasn't that casual games have any problem, but that Flash itself is just one component of an industry that is increasingly focused on mobile.

by tomh- 16y ago

benologist 16y ago

Yes, Flash is the easy target. But it's also a complete non-victory - the prize for "winning" is HTML5 games will co-exist on sites like Kongregate and Armor Games, and maybe one day represent the majority of new titles. That still leaves games being developed natively for multiple mobile platforms that are bigger markets, more rewarding, and increasingly more important than Flash for casual gaming. The fight really isn't whether you develop: Flash + iPhone + Android + WinMo + whatever vs. HTML5 + iPhone + Android + WinMo + whatever. That nullifies the only benefit of HTML5 - not having to do different versions for each platform.

wtracy 16y ago
Zynga is worth more than EA now: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-26/zynga-tops-electronic-arts-as-social-games-spread.html http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-26/zynga-tops-elect... Like it or not, casual games are becoming a much, much bigger market than "hardcore" games. Bejeweled is one of the most profitable game franchises right now. If I were writing that game from scratch today, I would do it in Flash or HTML5. That gets you every desktop that matters, and the number of mobile devices that support those technologies is still growing.
- benologist 16y ago
  Yeah the casual game industry is exploding, and my startup's a big part of it! My argument wasn't that casual games have any problem, but that Flash itself is just one component of an industry that is increasingly focused on mobile.