Fair enough. I'm as atheist as they come, but I honestly think things worked better when we left those cases you mentioned to the church instead of to governmen

Fair enough. I'm as atheist as they come, but I honestly think things worked better when we left those cases you mentioned to the church instead of to government. At least the church operates on the model of "god helps those that help themselves" so there is a genuine effort from those providing relief to get people off the relief instead of letting them become dependent. When the government does it, they are just administering a narcotic, often indefinitely. community > government