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The fact that Tesla says not to take your hands off the wheel, built security for this, and have made it clear it's not at that level while people still do so i

The fact that Tesla says not to take your hands off the wheel, built security for this, and have made it clear it's not at that level while people still do so is not their fault.

jlogsdon 7y ago
There are plenty of video interviews where Musk himself shows using auto pilot with his hands off the wheel.
- jlogsdon 7y ago
  It's even on their official sites demo video! As shared in another comment https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot
  - valine 7y ago
    It clearly states that the functionality in the video is coming in a future update. Its a video showing what the model 3 hardware is capable of once the software and regulation catches up.
    - trimbo 7y ago
      > once the software and regulation catches up. What regulation needs to catch up?
      - camjohnson26 7y ago
        There is none.
    - Dayshine 7y ago
      No it doesn't. On the Model S page one feature is called "Autopilot: Future of Driving". The Autopilot page then leads with a still shot of a driver not touching the wheel. If you press play it says "He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself". Sure, about 2/3 page lengths further down, hidden in the middle of a paragraph, it caveats it. But unless you read the fine-print, it's advertising hands free driving.
- zaroth 7y ago
  Every single automaker demos their lane-keeping technology with hands off the wheel.
  - mhermher 7y ago
    Show me.
    - zaroth 7y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19939793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19939793
darpa_escapee 7y ago
Weird, when I go to Tesla's Autopilot page[1], I'm presented with a video demo where the driver has his hands off of the wheel. The video has the following caption: > The person in the driver's seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself. [1] https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot
- DeonPenny 7y ago
  Thats to show FSD, a different feature. If you were to ask they have been very clear of what it does now and what it should do in the future.
  - darpa_escapee 7y ago
    That's a stretch. The video is directly under the headline of "Autopilot". Absolutely nothing on the page suggests that the video is demonstrating features that don't exist yet. Both the Center For Auto Safety and Consumer Watchdog[1] have filed claims of deceptive advertising with the FTC because of this Autopilot video. It's really reaching to claim that the video is demonstrating anything other than Autopilot. [1] https://www.consumerwatchdog.org/news-story/consumer-groups-say-teslas-autopilot-deceptive-marketing https://www.consumerwatchdog.org/news-story/consumer-groups-...
  - ncallaway 7y ago
    The video on that page makes no mention of FSD. The video is separated by approximately 7 content blocks from any mention of FSD. I could completely understand a reasonable person thinking this was a demonstration of Autopilot, given it’s the primary content block on the /autopilot landing page.

The fact that Tesla says not to take your hands off the wheel, built security for this, and have made it clear it's not at that level while people still do so is not their fault.

jlogsdon 7y ago

There are plenty of video interviews where Musk himself shows using auto pilot with his hands off the wheel.

jlogsdon 7y ago
It's even on their official sites demo video! As shared in another comment https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot
- valine 7y ago
  It clearly states that the functionality in the video is coming in a future update. Its a video showing what the model 3 hardware is capable of once the software and regulation catches up.
  - trimbo 7y ago
    > once the software and regulation catches up. What regulation needs to catch up?
    - camjohnson26 7y ago
      There is none.
  - Dayshine 7y ago
    No it doesn't. On the Model S page one feature is called "Autopilot: Future of Driving". The Autopilot page then leads with a still shot of a driver not touching the wheel. If you press play it says "He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself". Sure, about 2/3 page lengths further down, hidden in the middle of a paragraph, it caveats it. But unless you read the fine-print, it's advertising hands free driving.
zaroth 7y ago
Every single automaker demos their lane-keeping technology with hands off the wheel.
- mhermher 7y ago
  Show me.
  - zaroth 7y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19939793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19939793

darpa_escapee 7y ago

Weird, when I go to Tesla's Autopilot page[1], I'm presented with a video demo where the driver has his hands off of the wheel. The video has the following caption: > The person in the driver's seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself. [1] https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

DeonPenny 7y ago
Thats to show FSD, a different feature. If you were to ask they have been very clear of what it does now and what it should do in the future.
- darpa_escapee 7y ago
  That's a stretch. The video is directly under the headline of "Autopilot". Absolutely nothing on the page suggests that the video is demonstrating features that don't exist yet. Both the Center For Auto Safety and Consumer Watchdog[1] have filed claims of deceptive advertising with the FTC because of this Autopilot video. It's really reaching to claim that the video is demonstrating anything other than Autopilot. [1] https://www.consumerwatchdog.org/news-story/consumer-groups-say-teslas-autopilot-deceptive-marketing https://www.consumerwatchdog.org/news-story/consumer-groups-...
- ncallaway 7y ago
  The video on that page makes no mention of FSD. The video is separated by approximately 7 content blocks from any mention of FSD. I could completely understand a reasonable person thinking this was a demonstration of Autopilot, given it’s the primary content block on the /autopilot landing page.