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I think their point is that, if a prisoner cannot be trusted to know things, then people who know things cannot reasonably be made into prisoners. So either you

by Retra 7y ago

I think their point is that, if a prisoner cannot be trusted to know things, then people who know things cannot reasonably be made into prisoners. So either you can't put a programmer in prison or you should allow prisoners to know how to program. It doesn't make sense to have it both ways.

jandrese 7y ago
Just stuff the smart ones into solitary, problem solved. Prisons aren't about finding solutions that are just or humane. They're for punishing the people in them. Rehabilitation isn't punishment, so prisons don't do it. If you rehabilitate you get horrible cases like Norway where the total prison population is a measly 75 per 100,000 residents and the system is tiny. So many "bad guys" on the streets earning an honest wage. It's completely unacceptable to US legislatures. Where's the vengeance? Where's the humiliation? Where are the kickbacks from the numerous industries that exploit the literally captive audience? Totally unacceptable.
- LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
  Dont forget that you can prolong any sentence by creating re-offenses. The only rehabilitation you should be interested is in people who are unable to do usefull work for you- so back-problems, leg-problems and shoulder-problems which make you useless for hard labour- are the fast way to release for "good behaviour" aka, economic uselessness as a slave.
- banku_brougham 7y ago
  Perfect
pontifier 7y ago
I was briefly in jail, and had the opportunity to examine the security systems there in relative peace. It was a lot of fun actually. I would look at the screws holding things together, the locks, the hinges, the computer systems, etc. I would challenge myself to McGuyver an escape plan if somehow all the guards left and escape was my only option. I dont think there were any rooms, or areas that I could not have gotten out of. It gave me an interesting perspective on security. It changed my understanding of the role of a guard. A jail doesn't have to be escape proof, it just has to make escape slow or noisy enough that the guards can intervene. Without watching eyes, anyone determined enough will find ways to circumvent static security measures.

by Retra 7y ago

jandrese 7y ago

Just stuff the smart ones into solitary, problem solved. Prisons aren't about finding solutions that are just or humane. They're for punishing the people in them. Rehabilitation isn't punishment, so prisons don't do it. If you rehabilitate you get horrible cases like Norway where the total prison population is a measly 75 per 100,000 residents and the system is tiny. So many "bad guys" on the streets earning an honest wage. It's completely unacceptable to US legislatures. Where's the vengeance? Where's the humiliation? Where are the kickbacks from the numerous industries that exploit the literally captive audience? Totally unacceptable.

LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
Dont forget that you can prolong any sentence by creating re-offenses. The only rehabilitation you should be interested is in people who are unable to do usefull work for you- so back-problems, leg-problems and shoulder-problems which make you useless for hard labour- are the fast way to release for "good behaviour" aka, economic uselessness as a slave.
banku_brougham 7y ago
Perfect

pontifier 7y ago

I was briefly in jail, and had the opportunity to examine the security systems there in relative peace. It was a lot of fun actually. I would look at the screws holding things together, the locks, the hinges, the computer systems, etc. I would challenge myself to McGuyver an escape plan if somehow all the guards left and escape was my only option. I dont think there were any rooms, or areas that I could not have gotten out of. It gave me an interesting perspective on security. It changed my understanding of the role of a guard. A jail doesn't have to be escape proof, it just has to make escape slow or noisy enough that the guards can intervene. Without watching eyes, anyone determined enough will find ways to circumvent static security measures.